Hey all. I've been away for a while and came back when I heard that sch got an update... to learn that it was a dps skill... so what's happening? are we gonna get any healing buffs or are we stuck like this until the next expansion?


Hey all. I've been away for a while and came back when I heard that sch got an update... to learn that it was a dps skill... so what's happening? are we gonna get any healing buffs or are we stuck like this until the next expansion?




We are all waiting patiently for SE to answer this question...


You did get healing buffs. Emergency tactics, Indom, excog and Fey Union changes.
Sure you don't have op broken shields and you fairy Isn't solo healing dungeons, but SCH is very strong right now.


Surprisingly enough, I agree with you on this XD
Indeed, SCH is not OP anymore, but right now, after AST's Balance nerf (took them long enough...) I believe the 3 healers are very well balanced.
1) WHM have the highest healing throughput, highest aoe and single target burst dps and best mana sustainability (aka infinite mp), but zero utility.
2) AST have a lot of utility, rng utility to be more precise but we can still start the pull with aoe balance and another balance in our spread and we have a lot of tools to mitigate rng. However AST personal damage is fairly lower than whm's and sch's. Healing spells are solid, both in noct and diurnal sect.
3) SCH have very solid aoe and single target damage and a lot of instant heals plus some utility (wind/stratagem and other smaller stuff) and eos is still pretty good when maganed correctly.
As a unrelated note, I usually do my expert roulette with SCH even if I have all healers to 70. It just feels easier to me and letting eos do all the work during bosses while I focus on dps feels good (yes, this is still the case, you don't need to heal at all during bosses if your party is competent enough).
As for MP management...well, all 3 healers can easily heal and do dps without ever running out of mp so it's not really a problem.
Last edited by Lastelli; 08-03-2017 at 01:07 AM.


Excogitation and Indom got a potency increase but the rest of SCH's toolkit really needs to be looked at, sooner rather than later.




Im really hoping that Eye for an Eye gets removed from Deployment Tactics since it isn't very useful for an entire party to have when a tank is the enemy focus. The recast timers don't even line up anymore. Being able to Deploy Excogitation, even at half potency, would be so much more beneficial.
Being able to use Bane with Chain Strategem would also be a godsend. It would add so much more cohesion to the Scholar kit.
I cant believe they let Dissipation conflict with Fey Union since you get 3 stacks but cant add to your fairy gauge because the fairy is gone. Its just a slap in the face.
Its hard to love Scholar when so much seems to be lacking. Does anyone even use Selene because I really try but it's like creating a challenge for yourself.
Last edited by NobleWinter; 08-02-2017 at 07:02 PM.
The only thing that needs to change is a slight potency increase to Physick and Selene needs to be more useful. If not this, make Chain Strategem last 20 seconds. That's it. Damage is fine, utility is more than fine.



I don't agree with a lot of the things you post, but this I agree with 100%.
I want to know, what's the deal with all of the SCH that can't learn to play the job properly instead of crying about more buffs?



FWIW my static has a very capable SCH that's nearly solo healing savage fights and putting out respectable DPS, allowing me to focus on DPS for all but the heaviest damage phases. If you want to play SCH, play SCH.
If you want the mandatory party slot... yes, that's not SCH anymore. Play AST for that.
So, you're expecting anyone who play the job to play like that single guy no one knows ?FWIW my static has a very capable SCH that's nearly solo healing savage fights and putting out respectable DPS, allowing me to focus on DPS for all but the heaviest damage phases. If you want to play SCH, play SCH.
If you want the mandatory party slot... yes, that's not SCH anymore. Play AST for that.
Yeah, that seem really reasonnable.
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