Some healers make me panic

[Lannybaby]

This usually happens in the dungeon content where you get a healer who just loves to dps. Nothing wrong with that, but it just irks me when they let my hp drop to almost nothing before casting a big heal or benediction. Problem is, I start to get worried when my hp drops too low (15-20% or less). When it does, I use living dead and then... boom! Benediction or 2x lustrates before living dead even procs. There goes that wasted skill.

I know this is more of a me problem, but I don't know if they're going to lag suddenly (happens more often than I like) or fumble their heals just before I die... so I use living dead, only to see it wasted. And if I don't use it, they ask why I didn't. Then I ask why they didn't heal me, then we get into this stupid argument instead of continuing with the dungeon.

Any advice?

[Rawrz]

Good healers will always push DPS. If the rate of damage is slow, sure Ill let you hit 20%!

Nothing wrong with an unprocced living dead. It's more of a oops safety net compared to Pld and War, unless you're with a WHM who knows when to use bene. SCHs especially never want living dead to proc, as it takes massive resources to bring you back up.

[Maeka]

Good healers will always push DPS. If the rate of damage is slow, sure Ill let you hit 20

This is just asking for trouble.

I dunno about other tanks, but I HATE this with a purple passion.

Your #1 job is to HEAL. IF you have EXTRA time, THEN you can throw out a little DPS. Letting me go way down to 20% wondering if I'm going to get an incoming heal or not is not doing your job whatsoever, especially not in Stormblood content where you can have random bouts of 30%+ HP damage, especially on those larger pulls that everybody is bugging me to do.

Sometimes I might not see that stupid AoE marker because of all the mobs piled up ontop of it. Sometimes I have a split second lag that causes me to eat something that on my screen it looks like I was well outside the range of before the mob was finished casting.

If anything like this happens when I am 20%, I am dead plain and simple and you would have failed your job as a healer.

And what if lag happens and your heal doesn't get off as soon as you would like and you're a second too late? I've seen incoming heals when I was 500-1k HP (as a 41k+ tank!) in some Stormblood dungeons. I'm like "Hello? Heal?" and a split second before I drop dead, I get healed..... barely enough to take the next hit. Then the healer has to spam heals to get me back up to at least half and I end up spamming Clemency because I do NOT like being that low.

But if I'm spamming Clemency, that means less MP for Flash or Holy Spirit, that means I can't use Requiescat for extra DPS (because that is reliant upon MP) and it just causes all sorts of problems.

And, not to mention, heal-bombing the tank is a lot of spike threat instead of applying that threat gradually by keeping the tank in the 50-75% range like you're supposed to. It just isn't a good idea.

As a healer, I would never do this whatsoever. Yes, I put out less damage, but tanks never have to feel nervous when I'm healing, and to be honest, the runs aren't THAT much slower if I keep a tank 50-75%.

EDIT: BTW, I get a LOT of commendations when I play Healer. I guess this might be why...

[Shurrikhan]

This is just asking for trouble.

I dunno about other tanks, but I HATE this with a purple passion.

Your #1 job is to HEAL. IF you have EXTRA time, THEN you can throw out a little DPS.

They clearly have extra time. For any GCD in which not healing us won't let you us, they technically have extra time. That doesn't mean they should wait and Cure II when they could have used Regen earlier in order to heal more DPS overall, but... I really would have hoped this was more obvious.

Yes, latency and tank screw-ups, rotational or worse, are worthwhile considerations. But so long as they're being factored in, and not actually forcing nonoptimal CD usage, alive is alive.

[Maeka]

They clearly have extra time. For any GCD in which not healing us won't let you us, they technically have extra time. That doesn't mean they should wait and Cure II when they could have used Regen earlier in order to heal more DPS overall, but... I really would have hoped this was more obvious.

They clearly DON'T have extra time if I'm hitting 500-1000 HP left on 41k+ before the heal lands. This means they are BARELY keeping ahead of the damage, and sorry but I don't know some RandomHealer393482 well enough to trust that I will actually get the heal in time.

So, I end up spamming more Clemency which kills my threat output because I don't trust the healer, because he is NOT keeping me comfortably healed. I don't care about Healer DPS. Sorry, I don't. The Healer could keep me 100% at all times and not throw a single Stone and I would be happier than almost dying on every pull.

Now obviously some middle-ground would be nice. An Aero III or some Stone going on near the end of the pull when the incoming damage has tapered off, sure. But I don't like feeling tempted to blow Hallowed Ground because some Healer doesn't look like he can hack the content because I keep dropping way down in health constantly.

Maybe the healer is "good" (I use this term loosely) enough to know exactly when to throw the heal, but I don't know him or trust him enough with that. Sorry, I don't.

EDIT: And I'm starting to really hate seeing SCHs in my groups. They keep wanting to DPS, but after as many nerfs as that class has gotten, and the fact that they can barely keep you alive even when they aren't DPSing... I get nervous seeing that dreaded symbol appear on my 4mans. I find myself going "whm please...." before I see the group composition. The SCHs that try to DPS are even worse... a couple groups I've felt tempted to abandon duty because I nearly drop dead every other pull and their DPS ain't even all that great anyways. I'd rather they would spend more time keeping me alive than trying to act like a 3rd DPS. No offense to the good SCHs out there, I feel for you guys, your class was nerfed to oblivion... but if you simply must play SCH... then be a bit more careful, please.

[aleph_null]

This means they are BARELY keeping ahead of the damage, and sorry but I don't know some RandomHealer393482 well enough to trust that I will actually get the heal in time.

Probably RandomHealer393482 doesn't care whether RandomTank284393 trusts them either. If people are dying then yeah they misjudged their capacity, if people are alive they're doing their job fine.

[Ragology]

Just keep doing what you're doing; The only hit point that matters is the last one.

[Lannybaby]

I get that but that's the best case scenario. I'm talking about all the others in between, like the healers who have accidents (fumbled heals, sudden lag spike, etc) which could be alleviated by healing at a higher hp threshold. Maybe around the 50% hp area, or even 35%.

[winsock]

In a pug, I start taking action below 50%, below 20% and its hardcore survival mode.

Couple exception:
* WHM if bene not used. They need you low to optimize.
* SCH at the very start of a fight. They've got a bit of startup time on their DPS.

Honestly though, with HW cleric stance gone, there is very little reason for them to drop you below 50%

Stone, Stone, cure II
And
Stone, cure II, stone

are the same dps

[Rawrz]

In a pug, I start taking action below 50%, below 20% and its hardcore survival mode.

I sometimes get the tanks that scream "heals!?", but I really rather not stop in the middle of my DPS just to heal you when I know you'll be fine.

You really gotta trust your healer with this. Just like you know how much damage you can handle, we know how low your HP can drop before we need to heal.

You know what's fun? Be in voice chat with your healer. When you hear them screaming in terror when you're at 20%, you may proceed to panic. Their butt is clenching just as tight as yours at this point. xDD