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    Ry0uSh1n's Avatar
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    Ryoushin Mizuki
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    Solo Instances - NPCS Not dodging AOE.

    I recall a solo instance where the npc's dodged the aoe's. Did SE just decide to uproot that idea and trash it or was it a wasted endeavor to expect this from that instance and beyond?
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    Easier to increase their hp relative to their intended "would dodge it if they could" rather than code and process them to recognize and dodge aoes properly, preferably with highest uptime. After all thei answer to walking enemies crossing thin air in a certain fight was to make them floating enemy modles instead of recode the movement ai. Not judging, just a glimps into the decision making process.
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    Well, if it's a PLD instance, the idea might be holding hate so that the AOE doesn't hit the targets in question. SCH has a similar "issue" but the idea is that you are suppose to be healing these targets so they aren't going to dodge all AOE's so you can do your job and heal said target when they take excessive damage.
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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Well, if it's a PLD instance, the idea might be holding hate so that the AOE doesn't hit the targets in question. SCH has a similar "issue" but the idea is that you are suppose to be healing these targets so they aren't going to dodge all AOE's so you can do your job and heal said target when they take excessive damage.
    The only time where heals were heals
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    Nixx Delumi
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    I haven't really noticed a problem. The final SCH scenario had all allied NPCs dodging AOE. I think I encountered one at some point where they didn't, but it never put them at risk of dying, so I'm not worried about it.
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    I think it's recognized in Hall of Novice training, but my personal theory is that it's just not something people normally see. Because Echo blah blah blah. You don't see AOE circles when random icicles are falling off of buildings do you?

    Wait- do you?
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    It's preparing you for multiplayer instances
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    The SCH quests had both.

    When Alka Zolka and Landanel had the big markers over their head with massive circular AoEs around them, they both spread out and run to the arena edges like you should as a player.

    Up until that point, every normal orange AoE meant nothing to the NPCs. Alka Zolka just ate them, but, as stated, his HP is so inflated, regular healing kept him perfectly fine. Same for Setoto and Landanel.


    So, I guess it's case by case. As they reacted accordingly to special skills but not to the ordinary ones.
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    Selawyn Kludra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    The SCH quests had both.

    When Alka Zolka and Landanel had the big markers over their head with massive circular AoEs around them, they both spread out and run to the arena edges like you should as a player.

    Up until that point, every normal orange AoE meant nothing to the NPCs. Alka Zolka just ate them, but, as stated, his HP is so inflated, regular healing kept him perfectly fine. Same for Setoto and Landanel.


    So, I guess it's case by case. As they reacted accordingly to special skills but not to the ordinary ones.
    I was so excited to see the NPCs reacting to AoEs in that fight. They were finally able to code them to move, so I was hoping maybe we'd see a lot smarter NPC companions in this expansion.

    ...then I did AST. Nope!
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhindas View Post
    I was so excited to see the NPCs reacting to AoEs in that fight. They were finally able to code them to move, so I was hoping maybe we'd see a lot smarter NPC companions in this expansion.

    ...then I did AST. Nope!
    AST has that one scripted battle where you pick off characters from the enemy's team one by one.

    Most AI in the game is essentially scripted for the instance, so that's why we don't see it. If they make it so that you could take the class/job NPC's and the scions into party dungeons, they would have to improve the AI.
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