Drop Rates of mounts from Extreme primals & Dungeons

[Rakiria]

Nightmare can be dropped at all 2.0 primals, so while the drop chances are still lower per primal, you have a chance to get it during any of your other pony farms. Now for all the others, 2-4 hours just simply is not enough when you're unlucky. You're not meant to just get it. You might enjoy the game more when you do, but then people who have the patience and determination (and time) to actually farm it can't enjoy it as much, the feeling of triumph when getting it is smaller, it's not as special anymore and you run out of things to do faster as you can cross things off your bucket list much faster. I did read your posts. It's just not something that is meant for you to be easily achieved and you can only find your peace with that or continue getting into pointless, age-old arguments on the forums.

[Arutan]

Nightmare can be dropped at all 2.0 primals, so while the drop chances are still lower per primal, you have a chance to get it during any of your other pony farms. Now for all the others, 2-4 hours just simply is not enough when you're unlucky. You're not meant to just get it. You might enjoy the game more when you do, but then people who have the patience and determination (and time) to actually farm it can't enjoy it as much, the feeling of triumph when getting it is smaller, it's not as special anymore and you run out of things to do faster as you can cross things off your bucket list much faster. I did read your posts. It's just not something that is meant for you to be easily achieved and you can only find your peace with that or continue getting into pointless, age-old arguments on the forums.

It only loots on Ifrit, Garuda and Titan

[Snow_Princess]

You're active daily/monthly are you not? Here's the thing though, it is an MMO. Even current MMOs have timesinks. In a subscription based MMO, you need to keep players subbed. How do you do that? Artificial time gates, and big time sinks for things that aren't capped. You know, I have to allocate my time as well (I don't have infinite time either). Right now my time is divided between levelling, and Creation tomestone farming. I will do 1 O4a week, for the crystalloid, but I won't touch O1-O3. Because of the pure RNG gating. Creation tomestones are capped at 450 per week. That's why the amount is so reasonable. It keeps you coming back week after week. Daily roulette bonuses, same deal. If they were to reduce the amount of tokens needed, they would have to cap it to 1 token a week. Else players with more time (or more efficient) than you and I would blitz through the content in about an hour.

This is what I do and may help.
To cap creation you need 3 x expert and 3 x frontline. so 3 rl days you are almost capped. Then you can do all 4 deltascape and you will get hands/ belt/ head at least since people let that drop to the floor, even if you do not get anything, 2 more runs after doing each once, you cap creation.

The thing with time sinks though, they can make them without being inhuman demanding? even you said you will not do 1-3 os because of the rng gating, you need people to do content.

As far as me being on the forums, it called mutitasking.

[Vidu]

The thing with time sinks though, they can make them without being inhuman demanding? even you said you will not do 1-3 os because of the rng gating, you need people to do content.

I hate to repeat myself but: 20 hours max stretched over however long you will is not inhuman.
15 minutes a day for three months is not inhuman.

I've got another hobby besides playing this game - cross stitching. Finishing one of my projects can easly take 80 hours, maybe thats why I dont have such an issue with this... or maybe thats inhuman too? Spending more than 5 hours on something you desire?

You are using a pretty big word for a pretty small "issue" here - an issue that I wouldnt even call that. Because the only issue here is this "I want everything NOW without putting any effort into it!"-attitude.

[Keridwyn]

I'm sorry, it isn't inhumanly demanding to get the mounts. I had to do 85 runs of Ravana EX before I won my bird. Took me three days. I didn't do roulettes, run frontlines, or join raids, just Ravana EX. Three days. By your own admission that's the amount of time you spend each week capping tomes.

Should I start demanding that roulettes reward more creation so that I only need to run three a week to cap it? No because that would not only ruin queue times but kill off a good portion of time a lot of people spend in game.

Stop trying to make everything fit for your priorities

[Snow_Princess]

I hate to repeat myself but: 20 hours max stretched over however long you will is not inhuman.
15 minutes a day for three months is not inhuman.

Yes it is, rofl, You can't make me do things that take too long to do, the Dev team even said they do not cater to it:
http://www.dualshockers.com/final-fa...ew-stormblood/

"We’re not worried about the concurrent users. We look more to the daily active users and the monthly active users."

sorry if the development team does not share your vision.

I'm sorry, it isn't inhumanly demanding to get the mounts. I had to do 85 runs of Ravana EX before I won my bird. Took me three days. I didn't do roulettes, run frontlines, or join raids, just Ravana EX. Three days. By your own admission that's the amount of time you spend each week capping tomes.

Should I start demanding that roulettes reward more creation so that I only need to run three a week to cap it? No because that would not only ruin queue times but kill off a good portion of time a lot of people spend in game.

Stop trying to make everything fit for your priorities

That is demanding too much! for one mount? are you joking? You have to put off all that for 3 days? Running one DF for that long for something so small is ridiculous.

Even going by your account, 3 days is nothing compared to a lifetime, therefor it is pointless to make content though RNG like that. It is not content that point, it is just artificially gating to waste people's time. It does not do anything good for the game other then frustrate those with limited time and care how it is spent. Why are you even playing a casual MNO if you want huge time sinks? this game is clearly not for that.

[Keridwyn]

That is demanding too much! for one mount? are you joking? You have to put off all that for 3 days? Running one DF for that long for something so small is ridiculous.

I didn't 'put it off'. How can you not comprehend that I chose to do content I LIKED repeatedly for a reward I wanted over content I had NO interest in doing?

YOU like dungeons/raids/pvp. I DON'T. So I used my days appropriately.

You lessen the amount of tokens I need, you reduce the amount of content I do even further.

[Vidu]

Yes it is, rofl, You can't make me do things that take too long to do, the Dev team even said they do not cater to it:

Definition of inhuman

1a : lacking pity, kindness, or mercy : savage an inhuman tyrant
b : cold, impersonal
his usual quiet, almost inhuman courtesy — F. Tennyson Jesse
c : not worthy of or conforming to the needs of human beings inhuman living conditions

2
: of or suggesting a nonhuman class of beings

Your use of "inhuman" does not fit any definition of the word. Not even close. Its almost insulting that you'd use this word in the context of spending a maximum amount of 20 hours on optional content in a videogame.

By your interpretation the devs dont agree on me - their actions are showing that they clearly do. Unless ofc you believe they made the same mistake (placing the required tokens for the mounts at 99) seven times... in that case - have you tried to file a bug-report? I'd like to see how fast that ends up in "Working as intended".

Nothing makes you farm for those mounts. You dont even need them to play/enjoy the game.
Working a 20-hour-shift in a coal-mine without rest, food or daylight is inhuman.
Spending an aggregated (over months, if you will) 20-hours on getting an optional mount in a videogame while sitting comfortable infront of your PC/PS4 is not even close to being "inhuman". I wouldnt even call it an inconvenice because to me it isnt - if it is to you, you're free to not do it.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

sorry if the development team does not share your vision.

Considering the devs kept the exact same system they implemented over a year at the behest of players complaining on the forums over having to run Primals more than 99 times. It's quite obvious they don't share your. You simply want everything available to you in a day's time yet you'll be the first to complain how you now have nothing to do.

[Blokeymon]

It only loots on Ifrit, Garuda and Titan

That's why they said 2.0 primals.

Leviathan, Ramuh and Shiva were 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 if I remember right.