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  1. 07-14-2017 05:17 AM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    SAM brings slashing debuff, if you don't have WAR you could bring a SAM instead of NIN. And if you are saying that you would always bring NIN, maybe NIN needs a nerf.
    I think its been obvious for a while that NIN needs a nerf, I don't know of any serious comp that doesn't have one - even back in 3.X. I was shocked that it was actually buffed for SB.
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  2. 07-14-2017 05:36 AM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    However, if that base premise is true (that melee are greater effected by mechs) it would mean that making BLM=SAM or BLM>SAM in terms of dps would effectively make SAM obsolete.
    Well in case of BLM it's totally not true. Also BLM=SAM result in lower BLMs dps in real content.
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  3. 07-14-2017 05:45 AM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osh1mA View Post
    Well in case of BLM it's totally not true. Also BLM=SAM result in lower BLMs dps in real content.
    I respect that many caster players here think that, I just dont see that as having been the case in the past or any evidence to suggest it to be so now. And why would BLM=SAM result in lower dps for BLM in real content?
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  4. 07-14-2017 05:51 AM #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    I respect that many caster players here think that, I just dont see that as having been the case in the past or any evidence to suggest it to be so now.
    From where you get that idea of yours about casters uptime anyway???
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  5. 07-14-2017 05:53 AM #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    I respect that many caster players here think that, I just dont see that as having been the case in the past or any evidence to suggest it to be so now. And why would BLM=SAM result in lower dps for BLM in real content?
    It's a indisputable and known fact that movement is gutting BLMs DPS very hard. Saying that BLM is less punished by mechanics is laughable.
    At this point I think enough people already showed you why you are wrong. It's time to let it go imo...
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  6. 07-14-2017 06:00 AM #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry_Evil View Post
    At this point I think enough people already showed you why you are wrong. It's time to let it go imo...
    A lot of people have said I am wrong, not so much on the showing. But I agree about letting go, we will see next week what happens with BLM. If SE makes them stronger than SAM then I will most certainly have been in the wrong.
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  7. 07-14-2017 06:07 AM #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    A lot of people have said I am wrong, not so much on the showing.
    Even your own data suggesting you're wrong...
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  8. 07-14-2017 06:12 AM #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osh1mA View Post
    Even your own data suggesting you're wrong...
    How exactly?
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  9. 07-14-2017 06:13 AM #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    How exactly?
    Bc it's show no statistically meaningful difference in uptime???
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  10. 07-14-2017 06:18 AM #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osh1mA View Post
    Bc it's show no statistically meaningful difference in uptime???
    It wasn't supposed to? It was in response to CecMiller's post about there being a 1- 2% diff in uptime across good players on Susano. I agreed with them... Did you even read it?

    You would need to measure across every fight in the game the uptime between BLM and SAM to definitively say one had greater uptime over the other. You dont have that data, I dont have that data. Until then its purely speculation.
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