Earthly Star damage nerf

[Pomo]

Hello,

I was playing around with Earthly star in the Ruby Sea and I noticed that its damage wasn't adding up. After 10 seconds, it should have the same potency as Gravity, but it was consistently doing about 25% less damage. This was on a single target, so no damage reductions came into play. The difference between Earthly dominance and Giant dominance damage potency is also 25%. I thought that maybe it wasn't getting the Mend damage boosts, but those are at 40%. The only thing I can think of is that either the tool tip is wrong or the devs screwed it up somehow when they were changing it from the 900 or so healing potency it used to be at.

I've tried it on multiple characters and it's always the same thing. I submitted a bug report via the in-game tool, but I wanted to make this post so that other players are aware of it as well.

[Riyshn]

I don't know it for sure, but I've seen a couple people say that Earthly Star's damage is calculated as if from a pet, so ~20% less than the potency suggests sounds about right.

...not that having that reduction in the first place makes sense. I can't imagine it would be all that hard to just list that actual potencies.

[Pomo]

I don't know it for sure, but I've seen a couple people say that Earthly Star's damage is calculated as if from a pet, so ~20% less than the potency suggests sounds about right.

It doesn't though given that the Sch pets have benefited from the Mend boosts in the past. Assuming Earthly Star is a pet that doesn't get the mend boosts, then the difference should be 40% and not ~25%. I further believe that the tool tip is currently wrong with the reason being either an error on the translation team or a goof on the devs when they changed the ability's potencies from an earlier build.

I tested it with Earthly and Giant Dominance and they were both behaving as expected, but the end result was still about 25% off in both cases. I'm currently locked out of my characters due to how late SE and Amazon were at sending out the physical game, but I'll give a more detailed report when they arrive unless someone else wants to do in my stead. I also noticed that Earthly Star missed against a level 52 enemy at the beginning of the Earthly Sea, but I've yet to be able to replicate that. I believe I took a screen shot of the battle logs when it occurred, but I'm not sure how to post that here.

[Rubiss]

It doesn't though given that the Sch pets have benefited from the Mend boosts in the past. Assuming Earthly Star is a pet that doesn't get the mend boosts, then the difference should be 40% and not ~25%. I further believe that the tool tip is currently wrong with the reason being either an error on the translation team or a goof on the devs when they changed the ability's potencies from an earlier build.

I tested it with Earthly and Giant Dominance and they were both behaving as expected, but the end result was still about 25% off in both cases. I'm currently locked out of my characters due to how late SE and Amazon were at sending out the physical game, but I'll give a more detailed report when they arrive unless someone else wants to do in my stead. I also noticed that Earthly Star missed against a level 52 enemy at the beginning of the Earthly Sea, but I've yet to be able to replicate that. I believe I took a screen shot of the battle logs when it occurred, but I'm not sure how to post that here.

This is false. Pets have always been affected by Mend and Maim at least as far as 3.0 is concerned. A lot of people saw the tooltips and got excited, not realizing that it always gave pets +30%

[Pomo]

This is false. Pets have always been affected by Mend and Maim at least as far as 3.0 is concerned. A lot of people saw the tooltips and got excited, not realizing that it always gave pets +30%

For sure. I was just using that assumption to show that even if it wasn't affected by the mend traits, the numbers are still off.

[Riyshn]

It's not about Maim and Mend, pets just scale at ~80% compared to a player. Has been like that since... the start of HW, I believe.

[amihavingfunyet]

Did some very short math on the damage. Also this is done at Lv 62, so numbers are a bit lower, but this shouldn't change much

Malefic 2
180 potency
damage: 2484 2419 2394 2593 2601 2515 2610 2477 2400 2453
avg damage: 2494,6
avg. damage/potency: 13,86

Earthly Star - Earthly Dominance
150 potency
damage: 1511 1511 1555 1551 1466
avg damage: 1518,8
avg. damage/potency: 10,16

Earthly Star - Giant Dominance (I guess I got a little unlucky on those)
200 potency
damage: 1903 2014 1938 1989 1997
avg damage: 1968,2
avg. damage/potency: 9,841

[amihavingfunyet]

Update: It seems to be fixed with 4.01. Numbers:

Malefic III
Potency: 220
Damage: 4318 4385 4243 4336 4399 4380 45351 4467 4457 4220
Avg. Damage: (43556/10) = 4355.6
Avg. Damage/Potency: 19.798

Earthly Star - Earthly Dominance
Potency: 150
Damage:  2812 2908 2860 2971 2907 2858 2987 2902 2830 2852
(4044) (4361)
Avg. Damage: (28887/10) = 2888.7
Avg. Damage/Potency: 19.258

Earthly Star - Giant Dominance
Potency: 200
Damage: 3687 3800 3970 3679 3822 3970 3729 4033 3794 3908 
(5843)
Avg. Damage: (38392/10) = 3839.2
Avg. Damage/Potency: 19,196

On a different matter: I noticed that sometimes (rarely) if I let Earthly Star time out and detonate on itself, it doesn't do damage nor healing. Both were done with /ac "Earthly Star" <t> and I did not move around or do anything else.

[LegoTechnic]

So was ES stealth-fixed in 4.01 and no longer pay a damage tax? That's good to know.