Another patch for worthless PGL

[Sylkis]

So guys, gladiator and marauder are supposed to be the two main tanks currently in the game, but if i listen to you (haven't tried it myself) this is in fact the pugilist who is the best tank.

And everything seems fine to you ?

best offensive tank which is exactly what moogle fight needs.

[Deli]

+1 for howling fist combo.
I constantly doing 1k+ just on howling fist on L50ish mobs. I really have no idea why people think it still weak.

I miss a lot tho XD so is my other DD jobs

[Murugan]

+1 for howling fist combo.
I constantly doing 1k+ just on howling fist on L50ish mobs. I really have no idea why people think it still weak.

I miss a lot tho XD so is my other DD jobs

Accuracy is a non-issue in boss fights due to to their strange lack of evasion and the full party buff. I don't think I've ever seen anyone miss anything.

[Alise]

Wait until people start recruiting PT with 1-2 spots demand for PGL then you gonna say it.
I find it weird how people trying to defend something that is seen so clearly.

Strongest solo because of evasion? you only need that if there is PvP. But currently whoever kill the mob faster = win. Dodging doesn't help you farm item faster or gain exp faster. (solo purpose)
Compare as damage dealer, flame fist mode drain your mp too quickly. (says with full MP, how long does it stay on you?) Don't forget that LNC will have most damage buff as job upgrade, while PGL enhance further base as evasion.... evasion... When will SE design boss that you need high evasion to survive so the PGL will finally actually be needed?

I will say this again. Argue me back whenever most of random recruitment actually demand to have stack of PGLs in party as ARC/LNC/MRD/THM/CNJ were. Then I ll surrender.

[Murugan]

Wait until people start recruiting PT with 1-2 spots demand for PGL then you gonna say it.
I find it weird how people trying to defend something that is seen so clearly.

Strongest solo because of evasion? you only need that if there is PvP. But currently whoever kill the mob faster = win. Dodging doesn't help you farm item faster or gain exp faster. (solo purpose)
Compare as damage dealer, flame fist mode drain your mp too quickly. (says with full MP, how long does it stay on you?) Don't forget that LNC will have most damage buff as job upgrade, while PGL enhance further base as evasion.... evasion... When will SE design boss that you need high evasion to survive so the PGL will finally actually be needed?

I will say this again. Argue me back whenever most of random recruitment actually demand to have stack of PGLs in party as ARC/LNC/MRD/THM/CNJ were. Then I ll surrender.

Good King Moggle Mog XII. So... December 16th. (I'm gonna assume you haven't done the fight, as the greatest danger in that fight comes from melee attacks which can be evaded).

[Coglin]

I will say this again. Argue me back whenever most of random recruitment actually demand to have stack of PGLs in party as ARC/LNC/MRD/THM/CNJ were. Then I ll surrender.

Most people are not recruiting a 100% random party. 90% of the recruitment are groups that already have thier key roles fulfilled, looking for that 6th, 7th, or 8th player to top off the group. Thus your point there is a little invalid.

[Alise]

Most people are not recruiting a 100% random party. 90% of the recruitment are groups that already have thier key roles fulfilled, looking for that 6th, 7th, or 8th player to top off the group. Thus your point there is a little invalid.

JP do it every night, 3-4 PTs at peak time. And my time zone is Asian time, so I always hear them and it is not invalid.

Also, even within your LS, do you ask PGL as "demand" to have in every party or not? Not even dream of stacking PGLs like other classes used to have... (THM on Dodore, ARC on DH, LNC on IF, MRD on SH. CNJ on everything)

I only want at least one PGL to be need in every PT.

[Coglin]

JP do it every night, 3-4 PTs at peak time. And my time zone is Asian time, so I always hear them and it is not invalid.
I call bull****. Either they are crappy Pick Up Groups without knowledge of PGL capability, in which case you don't want to go with them, or your full of it if you want us to believe they refuse to accept a PGL

Also, even within your LS, do you ask PGL as "demand" to have in every party or not? Not even dream of stacking PGLs like other classes used to have... (THM on Dodore, ARC on DH, LNC on IF, MRD on SH. CNJ on everything)

No, we don't "demand" anything. Thats just stupidly elitest. We ask in LS chat, who wants to join me in an Ifrit or mog run (or whatever). The first 7 others to speak up get sent invites> Viola raid group. The end.

I only want at least one PGL to be need in every PT.

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[Rentahamster]

PGL is good for the moogle fight.

[Firon]

Sange rite + feather foot = unlimited mp and you should not have fist up all the time i use mine as an atk boost for ws vs certain mobs. also i tank and kite on the moogle fight w/ my ls on pgl and know what else is funny pgl gets almost he same def as an gla w/ earth stance.

also every time we parse the moogle fight no class is really above the other by that much some times i out dps some of the archers sometimes the mrd out dps everyone it just goes around Pgl doing 22k dmg in a fight is not leaching you noobs.