Why penalities to change stances?

[P4X0R10N]

I don't understand this new mentality that has cropped up. How is losing mana and a GCD literally "NO penalty"? If you wanna debate bigger/smaller penalties whatever... "NO penalty"? Come now. Hyperbole doesn't help anyone.

In 3.x literally nobody ever said that PLD or DRK had "no penalty" for changing stances, and if you did, people would have laughed your own ass off for you. That same penalty is still present.

DRK loses a ton of mana, a GCD, and Blood Weapon turning Grit on. PLD loses a GCD and mana both ways. These are huge penalties, not "no penalty".

Is 864 mana half your mana bar at 70? If not its not nearly enough.

Huge would be losing 50 percent of your only meaningful resource on each switch and having your heals gated behind one stance and dps abilities gated behind the other.

[eagledorf]

Is 864 mana half your mana bar at 70? If not its not nearly enough.

Huge would be losing 50 percent of your only meaningful resource on each switch and having your heals gated behind one stance and dps abilities gated behind the other.

Um, is your strategy just whining and whining and hoping nobody will notice everything you say is wrong?

DRK lose 1800 MP+400 from missing a GCD at level 70. That's 2200, not 864. The cost for turning on Grit is substantially higher than losing half your gauge going into Defiance even if you have 100 gauge.

[HyoMinPark]

Is 864 mana half your mana bar at 70? If not its not nearly enough.

Huge would be losing 50 percent of your only meaningful resource on each switch and having your heals gated behind one stance and dps abilities gated behind the other.

Uh.... at level 61, the cost of a DRK toggling Grit on is 1347 MP... there's no way at 70 it's less than that. Darkside should always be on, and there's no need to toggle it on or off anymore since they removed the MP drain.

Maybe this is in reference to PLD's Oaths, but DRKs do lose a bit by toggling Grit back on. 400 more MP at 61 is the cost of a Dark Arts+Souleater, so a 420 potency attack plus the MP drain.