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    See now not all people with these cards are having problems, which leads me to believe for some of you guys it's a hardware problem.

    And there is a difference in the brand of card you buy. Zotac/XFX and a few others, it's best to buy their stock card as their cooling is and voltage regulation is not always there. Sure they may release a few good products, but they're mostly trash. MSI /ASUS / EVGA use a higher grade cooling system and components. MSI will tell you on their website that they're using military grade caps and VRMs, which these things do make a difference, especially in factory overclocked versions. Alot of the cards from the latter three have much better cooling,HQ components, and are usually speced to draw in a little more power than the others. My experience (and others) point to much more stable operation with these. An old ASUS 980 I had actually ran cool enough in some situations that the card would completely cut off the fans. Kinda freaked me out when I saw this, but this is a feature built into that card given the HSF on that is really good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon View Post
    See now not all people with these cards are having problems, which leads me to believe for some of you guys it's a hardware problem.

    And there is a difference in the brand of card you buy. Zotac/XFX and a few others, it's best to buy their stock card as their cooling is and voltage regulation is not always there. Sure they may release a few good products, but they're mostly trash. MSI /ASUS / EVGA use a higher grade cooling system and components. MSI will tell you on their website that they're using military grade caps and VRMs, which these things do make a difference, especially in factory overclocked versions. Alot of the cards from the latter three have much better cooling,HQ components, and are usually speced to draw in a little more power than the others. My experience (and others) point to much more stable operation with these. An old ASUS 980 I had actually ran cool enough in some situations that the card would completely cut off the fans. Kinda freaked me out when I saw this, but this is a feature built into that card given the HSF on that is really good.
    Maybe, but I've defaulted to stock voltage and have water cooling. I had no crashes prior to 4.01.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon View Post
    See now not all people with these cards are having problems, which leads me to believe for some of you guys it's a hardware problem. [...]
    I was considering that possibility as well but much like Dominic, I have been using this card before 4.x without problems and - more importantly - SE support admitted to me that this was a problem their developers were looking into and to keep an eye on the forums.
    Also I find it unlikely that a hardware problem would affect only one game ... which appears to be the pattern here.

    SE could really clarify things by making a statement here either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoser View Post
    I was considering that possibility as well but much like Dominic, I have been using this card before 4.x without problems and - more importantly - SE support admitted to me that this was a problem their developers were looking into and to keep an eye on the forums.
    Also I find it unlikely that a hardware problem would affect only one game ... which appears to be the pattern here.

    SE could really clarify things by making a statement here either way.
    I took the OC off of my RAM. It's 2133 but was running XMP for 3000. It has been fine so far, but other changes I've made have resulted in supposed fixes only to crash again days later. If it lasts a week then I'll be tentatively convinced. As to how this ram speed could be related to code in 4.01...I have no idea.

    If you're using OC RAM and think you'll lose alot...you won't. The tl;dr of the following link is a 2% difference to non-OC. That's hardly a difference worth the hassles of crashing. I still get the same framerates in XIV, as my system is overkill for it in the first place. https://techbuyersguru.com/gaming-dd...vs-16gb?page=4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon View Post
    See now not all people with these cards are having problems, which leads me to believe for some of you guys it's a hardware problem.

    And there is a difference in the brand of card you buy. Zotac/XFX and a few others, it's best to buy their stock card as their cooling is and voltage regulation is not always there. Sure they may release a few good products, but they're mostly trash. MSI /ASUS / EVGA use a higher grade cooling system and components. MSI will tell you on their website that they're using military grade caps and VRMs, which these things do make a difference, especially in factory overclocked versions. Alot of the cards from the latter three have much better cooling,HQ components, and are usually speced to draw in a little more power than the others. My experience (and others) point to much more stable operation with these. An old ASUS 980 I had actually ran cool enough in some situations that the card would completely cut off the fans. Kinda freaked me out when I saw this, but this is a feature built into that card given the HSF on that is really good.
    Except both FFXIV on customer support lines at least and Nvidia (who I have been working with and they were able to create the issue on their end), on top of that everyone going out at around the same time. I highly doubt it is my hardware. This does not happen on any other PC game I play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon View Post
    See now not all people with these cards are having problems, which leads me to believe for some of you guys it's a hardware problem.
    I doubt that's the case. When looking around after suffering these problems myself recently, pretty much the only game that gets mentioned in significant volume where this complaint is concerned is Final Fantasy XIV, and usually all of the complaints are fairly consistent: That this is a problem that is only occurring with FFXIV in particular and does not tend to occur with other games that people run on their systems, especially after people have pursued almost every conceivable method of troubleshooting possible. What's even more perplexing is that these problems are occurring in greater frequency with newer updates whereas, beforehand, for those of us that have been playing since 2.0, we've hardly ever or never once suffered client/GPU crashes like this.
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