My Problem with PLD Oath Gauge

[BorisDaBlade]

When I'm in tank stance as mt and a successful block increases the oath gauge, it almost always procs shield swipe anyway. Sure it's a little mitigation and mp gain, but that's about it. And it builds so stinking slow it's not like it's on demand mitigation.

I think we got the shaft on the whole oath gauge mechanic, since shelltron is the only thing it's good for anyway.

[dragonseth07]

When I'm in tank stance as mt and a successful block increases the oath gauge, it almost always procs shield swipe anyway. Sure it's a little mitigation and mp gain, but that's about it. And it builds so stinking slow it's not like it's on demand mitigation.

I think we got the shaft on the whole oath gauge mechanic, since shelltron is the only thing it's good for anyway.

Oh, dude. You are looking at this very wrong.

After you swap to Sword for your proper opener, the gauge builds super fast. At that point, it becomes a source of Sheltron that come through whenever you need them for busters, physical or magic.

Additionally, in OT, you get the super-sick Intervention to spend it on, to give the MT bonus cooldowns. It's awesome.

Shield Oath gives you lots of gauge when you actually use Shield Oath: trash, when you block a lot.

Sword Oath really pulls through when you want to use it: boss fights after initial hate gen.

[ManuelBravo]

hmmmm Honestly I think it's well balanced for PLD. I use all 3 tank types and so far seems ok to me just takes time to adjust. You can also use other forms to raise gauge faster being all Jobs have access to it depending on actions. See Daich's example his dead on.

[TankHunter678]

Kinda makes one wish the +60% blocking skill was not on a 3 minute cooldown.

[Paperpickaxe]

The oath gauge is good for both Shelltron and Intervention, and you can fill the gauge quickly with Holy Spirit.

[dragonseth07]

The oath gauge is good for both Shelltron and Intervention, and you can fill the gauge quickly with Holy Spirit.

You should probably never use Holy Spirit in Shield Oath, though. HS is the highest-DPS part of your rotation. Using it in Shield is a great way to destroy your possible damage output.

[WayofTime]

You should probably never use Holy Spirit in Shield Oath, though. HS is the highest-DPS part of your rotation. Using it in Shield is a great way to destroy your possible damage output.

While that is indeed true and completely valid, it depends on how much you are feeling out a given fight. If your static is on Savage, for instance, and you want to learn the fight, the extra mitigation from Shield Oath is welcome. As such, HS then becomes a tool to increase the gauge at a decent rate. Sure, you do less damage, but at least you don't end up a stain on the floor before you learn the fight.

After you learn the fight and know that you no longer need ShO? Go ahead and use SwO and don't use HS in ShO.

[dragonseth07]

While that is indeed true and completely valid, it depends on how much you are feeling out a given fight. If your static is on Savage, for instance, and you want to learn the fight, the extra mitigation from Shield Oath is welcome. As such, HS then becomes a tool to increase the gauge at a decent rate. Sure, you do less damage, but at least you don't end up a stain on the floor before you learn the fight.

After you learn the fight and know that you no longer need ShO? Go ahead and use SwO and don't use HS in ShO.

Fair enough.

[BorisDaBlade]

I forgot about intervention. I swapped it out for shirk for more dps during swaps. I'll have to play with it more. Having a hard time switching to swo during the opening phase of susano, due to pretty op dps in my PFs, so I'm kinda stuck using HS is Sho after fof.

Is there a good way (without nin) to help build aggro instead of wasting fof on roh combos?

[dragonseth07]

I forgot about intervention. I swapped it out for shirk for more dps during swaps. I'll have to play with it more. Having a hard time switching to swo during the opening phase of susano, due to pretty op dps in my PFs, so I'm kinda stuck using HS is Sho after fof.

Is there a good way (without nin) to help build aggro instead of wasting fof on roh combos?

Wait, what do you mean "swapped it out for Shirk"? Intervention is a native ability, and Shirk is a role ability. They aren't mutually exclusive.