Pls dont nerv Shinryu Story.

[Dortharl]

All balance changes/nerfs affect everyone. Period. Think of it this way, each piece of content is a stepping stone to the next, and each prepares a player for the next jump. If you shift a stepping stone then a player's skill level will be altered for subsequent jumps.I look at the royal menagerie as a stepping stone in a larger string on player content leading from lvl 60 right through to savage omega, and that nerf would offset the difficulty curve leading to that point. Does that directly affect my own abilities? No. But I have a vested interest in the game mechanics that I would like to see balanced correctly, and not be put into a state of imbalance because some people didn't put in the effort to get it done. We saw it repeatedly in heavensward and I don't want to see it in stormblood as well.


Edit: as for your final point, I do help, because that is the point of the content, to prepare and educate people for harder content. A nerf would completely destroy that concept.

I am annoyed at your post because you promote the idea of holding the game hostage with subs. Something which has been used to force content to be dumbed down for the lazy, not for the inexperienced, and that's not fair on the players or the game itself.

Do you know a large percentage of the player base will never enter savage omega? Would you be surprised to hear that a lot of players in this game wont even bother entering savage content and are happy to play the normal modes for the story.

There is a reason why there are 2 tiers of contents in this game, it is to allow everyone to experience content, I'm not sure where the hostage situation comes into it.

As I have said in every post I've posted i this thread, I'm not personally affected by any changes to this dungeon but I feel the requests for the content to be altered are coming from those who are affected.

[xbahax92]

If they don't nerf it and new players get frustrated and quit SE will loose money. I think the difficulty is fine but I'm not a new player so my perception of difficulty may be biased. Don't be so quick to assume unskilled players used a boost potion, the majority of players are now using POTD and PVP to level, neither of which really help you lean how to play your class in PVE.

wow then i should of quited back then in 2.x then Titan hardmode was difficult as hell.
if you got clear problems, then look for a friendly Free company which helps people getting through content. Not only the Shinryu fight, but all other stuff as well. If people would leave just because they cant clear a content, man then i guess nobody would even touch savage content/extreme primals and just uninstall the game.

[usalia]

Sadle se goint to the lowest denominator that cant play/ dont want to play / have no time to. For some reason they think this way they get more people.

[Toothie-Cat]

they should lock gear this content, say that you must be well geared enough before proceeding to this quest. in that way they can avoid nerfing it.
because right now, the reality, this is too much for a story quest, casual players blindly walk unto this quest thinking that this is just a STORY quest.

I experience it first hand i did a couple of runs, 3 to 4 party disband... multiple wipes, im confident with my abilities thats why i didnt stop queuing but its not just me, its all about the people your partying with which are not really that good enough/ or not geared enough.

the only way to avoid nerf on this quest is to locked this with minimum gear requirement. at least casual can survive a few hits, probably will result to a fewer party wipe and disband at least its manageable and lesser rant LOL

[NightFire19]

Only change I would think they could add is Echo buff.

[Klonoa7]

Only change I would think they could add is Echo buff.

Or lowered HP. I know Susanoo needs less hp for sure, after he uses his ultimate you spend an eternity whittling him down and he does not even attempt to use his ultimate any more after the first attempt and instead just dances around the battlefield while his health drains ever soo slowly. It really makes it feel like he has a lot more hp than he's meant to have.

[MrsFluffyButt]

Only change I would think they could add is Echo buff.

Get out! Out!

[MuseTraveller]

I cleared on first run with me DPS and PLD friend, both went in blind and asked for no pointers just to see how it is. We weren't the only new ones and the party was fairly competent despite eating some mechanics. Next I ran it with two other friends also going in blind and more than half of the group was new. Wiped on tidal, nearly wiped on adds, wiped on 5% left then cleared on the 4th try and everyone had a blast. No one was salty and it was fairly good feeling watching this group grasp the mechanics so well we had maybe one death on the 4th run. I think the problem is not that the fight is hard but that people are just too impatient.

[Inuk9]

Polygon. The same guys who told "se dindt made a nioh Review because is tio hard" and plays games like shit.

Dont believe me? Just do a Quick YouTube search with "polygon playing Doom"

[C0NNECTION_LOST]

Other than maybe the Echo bonus, I see no reason to nerf this. It only took 2 tries after I asked a couple FC mates to queue with me. Was close as I was last dps alive blasting it at 1% and we were almost dead. But with practice, it should not be too tough. I just suggest to people, practice avoiding the mechanics on phase 3. I kept focusing on my casting and watching my bar and missed a couple mechanics (The 2nd tidal wave was tough). Just practice people, and not assume you will get the first day you get the quest.