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  1. #81
    Player
    Besame's Avatar
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    I always dps'd and debuffed bosses in other games when healing as I could but I am clueless here about healer operation so...I say, let them do what they are comfortable with.
    (0)

  2. #82
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    Maeka's Avatar
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    Maeka Blazewing
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    -snip-
    Must be your datacenter then, because I've not seen a single tank like this to date when I Q up as WHM (which I've been doing the past several days due to trying to get it up to 70).

    But, about the time I say that, I'll end up with somebody like this.

    I just don't understand how it's even possible for someone to be that badly geared as a tank. You have access to any dungeon you could want. You are *guaranteed* a drop (except weapon) from all 51-59 and 61-69 dungeons. You get XP by clearing dungeons close to your level even without Roulette bonus.

    Why in the *bleeep* would someone not farm dungeons for gear? Seriously.
    (1)

  3. #83
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    Character
    Yui Oshima
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 60
    The OP is part of why I've hung my cane and started to study the blade
    (4)

  4. #84
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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Song Sparrow
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Solution to healers not dpsing in dungeons:

    pick your battles and realize in the grand scheme of things this just isn't worth the energy
    (6)

    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  5. #85
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    Kumori_Kumo's Avatar
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    Character
    Kumori Kumo
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Phii View Post
    That's a bit of a stretch.
    My husband has arthritis. He plays healer. Not a what-if.
    (4)

  6. #86
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    Axelhander's Avatar
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    Lemires Silver
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Viperz View Post
    If healers refuse to dps in dungeons well I'm going to use full str accessories and stay in deliverance, sword oath and no grit no problem.
    It's always someone else's fault, right?
    (1)

  7. #87
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    Axelhander's Avatar
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    Lemires Silver
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhymenoserous View Post
    Everyone should strive to not suck as nothing more than common courtesy to the groups they are with. "I'm lazy so you have to suffer" is no way to go about really anything.
    Um, no. People should put in that effort if they choose. You do not get to choose how others play the game. They owe you nothing. Nothing.
    (0)

  8. #88
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    Malgrim's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Malgrim Rueshgor
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 9

    Target Forwarding

    New to the game play DPS now but will be switching to healer eventually is there a target forwarding option (You click tank and cast through them).
    (0)

  9. #89
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    Akelya's Avatar
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    Character
    Kirika Trimani
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    I think I will quit Healer too. Especially since I just had a Tank who blamed me (Ilvl293 and WHM), to heal less than a 310 AST during an Expert run where I had barely time to look away from the HP Bars and he apologised for "watching the news and getting distracted". He rushed into the last boss battle while one of the DPS was into a CS. I waited outside with the DPS, because I think it's pretty upsetting if you're doing a dungeon for the first time and then you are going to be locked out of the final battle (And it will take so much longer on the boss too). Of course it was my fault that he stood in the boss fight alone - "You shouldn't be causing wipes only because someone is in an CS" - Err, excuse me, I asked you nicely to not rush into the boss fight yet and obviously waited outside. And then blamed me because the dungeon took 27 mins instead of 20. I'm out of words. Are there any reasonable tanks still out there? As it seems I am only getting those with huge ego issues and rude gestures.
    (0)
    Last edited by Akelya; 07-27-2017 at 06:41 PM.

  10. #90
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    XiXiQ's Avatar
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    Character
    Xixi Eclipse
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    More group-think "everyone must play exactly as I like" or ELSE. We need SE to intervene, we need a "solution". No, you don't. If the healer is keeping everyone alive, they're doing their job just fine. Particlularly at a time where many are still learning all the new fights, or still levelling up, this kind of OP is not helpful. At all.

    I think of all the customisations we've lost to this mentality. Adjusting a small portion of your stats, or adjusting accessories, spirit-bonding in dungeons, now kicking people out of dungeons for spurious reasons (the most usual one being "they aren't playing to my precise spcifications"). The next thing to go will be materia - because if someone has melded so much a single piece someone disagrees with, SE need to step in and restrict everyone. again. Dungeon queues are long for a reason - because too many people are trying to cram their own spurious rules onto every single tank or healer. (and dps, but at least there are enough of them to go round)

    Here's a novel idea. Play how you want - and respect the fact that that is everyone else's right as well. If the job is getting done, there is zero reason to complain.
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