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  1. #61
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    Vrahjin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    Things hit harder now... period...
    I've recently gotten a string of Tanks in dungeons that pull just about everything and uses few, if any, CDs. More than once I've found myself with all my oGCDs used and spamming Cure II until I run OOM and we wipe. As a WHM.
    At least I haven't received any flak for it yet, but..

    Yeah. I'm much less inclined to DPS in dungeons with PUGs right now.
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  2. #62
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    This is such a pointless thread lol. Everyone's arguing about a healer not doing damage? last time I checked if someone is healing even if they did throw out a damage spell it does barely any damage compared to, you know, an actual DPS class.

    Like someone said at the beginning of the thread, if nobody died and you cleared the dungeon, why is anyone moaning.

    I'd understand if a healer just wasn't healing. But if they are and they are doing their class role (healing), then this entire thread is a waste of everyone's time.

    Let healers heal
    Let tanks take damage
    Let DPS deal damage

    Not difficult.
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  3. #63
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    What is the solution to tanks not tanking then? Curious on answers
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    What is the solution to tanks not tanking then? Curious on answers
    Kick them harder than a tank buster hitting a BLM/RDM
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  5. #65
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    Ihza Mhaskova
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    Exodus
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Healers heal.

    Tanks tank.

    DPS dps.

    Anything beyond this is a gift and the extra damage trash does in SB shows that SE wants it this way.

    Stop being petty and tank because tanking is your job.

    I am a WHM main and dps every chance I get but when someone like you DEMANDS I do?

    Well, I don't let off a single spell that does damage and only heal.
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  6. #66
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    Ihza Mhaskova
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    Exodus
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    Things hit harder now... period... healers have to focus on healing and not DPSing because tanks don't want to adapt to the new meta, which is : do YOUR job... if you're not killing things fast enough it's not a healers fault (unless they let people die thus slowing DPS). Tank sets the pace but they are the ones who need to adapt to their group...

    And as a side note I had a member of a FC I was in who was a 73yr old female player.... so a 60 yr old isn't far fetched at all...
    So much this.

    I may just have DRK as a secondary job but until the healer asks me to pull more in Stormblood content it's a single group at a time.

    Sure, it takes longer, but I'm a WHM main and know how hard the new enemies hit.

    Especially while leveling when you might be healing at the minimum ilvl.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    What is the solution to tanks not tanking then? Curious on answers
    You let them rush ahead into four mobs and die.

    After, you Vote Dismiss for wasting everyone's time and trolling.
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  8. #68
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    Famine Cruor
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    It's so dumb that we spend so much time yelling (err, typing angrily) at each other over such minor disagreements. I take the Homer Simpson view: Healer dps is like sprinkles on a doughnut. It makes a good thing better, but it doesn't need to be there to enjoy the doughnut. If you're not in a savage raid where every second counts and everyone needs to carry their own weight for success, then chill out! Put on some good music. Vape. Relax. If you're in a dungeon with low dps, the healer ain't gonna make a difference, guys. May as well enjoy some quiet time. I listen to ASMR videos on youtube.
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  9. #69
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    Faith Shine
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    Astrologian Lv 70

    Sigh......

    Healers DPSing should be left up to that healer. Why does a healer have to be BAD or LAZY if they choose to play their role? It should be what that HEALER is comfortable with. Doesnt make them lazy, dosent make them bad. If they are keeping the group up, their job is done.

    Im a healer main. I dps when I feel the group is stable/steady health wise. Should be what that healer is comfortable with. And if it really comes down to it........If it really is an issue of being lazy? As long as they are dong their job healing.............whats the problem?

    I can understand end game, hardcore play. I DPS in some dungeons because well for me standing there is boring. But if I choose not to dps and Im doing my job keeping people up, no one should be stressing over anything else.

    I watch dps all the time. Sometimes I feel they aren’t giving it their all. I don’t say anything because MAYBE they are playing the best way they know how. Maybe they are doing the best they can. Its not my place to judge. This game is about fun. Shouldn’t add stress to a person’s life.

    Ugghhhh Im sorry I’m just soooo tired of seeing these posts. Play your role, let others play their role. Just because someone isn’t playing the way YOU feel the class should be played doesn’t mean they aren’t trying.

    Just play and have fun. If it frustrates you that healers don’t dps, they go into dungeons with fixed groups, people you know who will play the way you need them to.
    IMO no one has the right to make such harsh judgement calls. That person healing could be doing the best job they know how. Just because it isn’t the way another person would do things doesn’t make them lazy or bad.
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    FAITH IS.............Seeing light with your HEART, When all your EYES see is darkness.

  10. #70
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    Healer not dpsing = Lazy? / Bad?

    My wish to the whole healer community is that they don't just stand there when things are smooth sailing.

    If healers are spamming heals to keep the tank alive in an AoE pull then it's fine and that is justified. If the tank decides to just pull 1 pack of 3 enemies, I would like it as a tank for healers to just throw a regen or 2 then hit some dps buttons and heal on occasion for safety.

    People on this thread who argue that no one has the right to tell people how to play their role are correct. However, if the healer can just give at least an iota of effort to whittle down mobs then things like dungeons and trials go a bit faster if just a little. A group going into a 4 man dungeon can clear anywhere between 12 - 35 minutes (in the same dungeon) depending if everyone gave some effort or if everyone is just playing the bare minimum of what is required.

    Healer dps is not negligible and helps clear any content noticeably faster.
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