Solution to healers not dpsing in dungeons

[HoodRat]

I don't remember once comparing DPSing to standing around doing nothing.

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Tanks can DPS simultaneously while doing their job of gaining hate. We have to stop healing to DPS...That being said I am a DPSing healer, just wanted to stop the ridiculousness of these flawed comparisons.

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I have seen several people defend healers who stand around doing absolutely nothing when they don't need to heal.

Or worse, a secondary/tertiary tank in 8/24 mans that doesn't do anything while there's nothing for him to tank.

Neither of us said anything at all about dps yet here you are saying our comparisons are flawed because healers have to stop healing to dps. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Again, a healer standing around doing nothing is monitoring health, mob moves, navigating mechanics that will wipe us instantly due to our substantially lower health pools and being on the ready at any moment to make up for the mistakes of others.

No, a healer standing around doing nothing is standing around doing nothing. Look at Frizze's post, they claim they tunnel vision and yet they still look at more than what you claim healers do when they're standing around doing nothing. It just makes zero sense to me why people are trying to lower the bar of acceptable play here.

[OcieKo]

Healer Checklist:
Focus Target Boss for Cast Bars
Boss Animations for abilities
Personal placement for dodging
DPS placement
Tanks Stance
Tanks CDs up
Remembering which tank/dps cds havent been used in awhile
Add spawn locations
Click Mechanic Locations
Personal Placement for AOE heals... In case you havent noticed sometimes, we have to move inside the boss just to hit the MT and melee, and hope ranged arent 25y behind them, the miss rate on Helios/AHelios/Succor/Indom/Assize/Medica I higher than youd think
Track our own CDs
Tank Health
DPS Health
Healer Health (imho the most commonly forgotten one)
Summoner/Machinist pet health (good healer will try to watch these when they can)
Predict the next 6-12s of incoming damage
Predict the next 30s of outgoing damage
Own MP Pool
Co-Healers MP Pool
Tank Mechanics
DPS Mechanics
Team MP/TP Pools
Co-Healers Cast Bar
SMN/RDM/PLD Cast Bars
Reduce GCD use when average MP pool of healers/rezzers gets too low
Enmity bars, whole group

Pretty sure i missed a few, but big point is, most of what we have to watch isn't even part of ourselves, on average we track between 5 and 40 entities. 5 being 4 players and an enemy, 40 being up to 24 players, and a combination of up to 16 pets/enemies/click mechanics. And if any of thise goes wrong or screws up, healers are usually the first line of response to it.

[HoodRat]

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Most of those aren't even exclusive to healers. Tanks and dps have to watch many things too, yet I don't see anyone saying they have to stand around doing nothing in order to track them, but apparently healers do from what I'm being told. I'm not saying healers need to be super pro, heal as little as possible and spend as much time as possible dpsing. I don't think anyone here is saying that. My problem is that many healers out there who are not new/learning could be doing something but instead choose to stand idle and do nothing whatsoever. There isn't enough info in the OP's post to tell for sure but I imagine this is what they're referring to as well.