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    Viperz's Avatar
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    Vi-peez Rada
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 70

    Solution to healers not dpsing in dungeons

    If healers refuse to dps in dungeons well I'm going to use full str accessories and stay in deliverance, sword oath and no grit no problem.
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  2. #2
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    Kanitezz's Avatar
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    Jubii Io
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Your healer could STILL be getting used to how things play. Your healer could be one of those healers who cant really identify the seconds where its ok to take their mouse or cursor or whatever off of you so they can dps. Because they know that if the party wipes because enough healing wasn't going out, 85% of the time, someone from your party WILL chew them out. Your healer could be a 60 year old with arthritis or some shit. Think of factors as to why your healer is playing the way they do. You do your job and let them do theirs.
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    Seoulstar's Avatar
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Then when your party dies, it will be your fault for being petty.
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    Phii Delity
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanitezz View Post
    Your healer could be a 60 year old with arthritis or some shit.
    That's a bit of a stretch. All these what if's. Lets just say it plainly "Your healer could be awful at this game." That's usually the case for 0 dps healers. 99% of the time, they are either bad or lazy. Casting a heal every 10 seconds and standing there. A sack of potatoes. Being a dpsing healer doesn't mean being on par with the DPS, nobody expects that! It means not being the potted plant of the party. Is it really THAT hard to cast 1 holy? One Aero III in the entire pull? Bane your dots and then go back to healing? Is it truely THAT hard? I could understand why people got scared when Cleric Stance existed. Your times could be off, you could missclick it. But now that its gone there is no excuse for a healer to do 0 dps. "But they are doing their job!" Yea a tank could flash his way through the dungeon and he'd be doing his job.
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  5. #5
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Honestly I rarely DPS the first time through content outside of reapplying my dots from time to time. This is especially true of raiding content where I get easily overwhelmed by all the new things coming at me and need a good moment or two to focus not just on healing but also learning the first. Once I've learned the fight though it's pretty much smooth sailing from then on out and I'll DPS as much as I can get away with. Still so long as the healer is keeping you alive I don't really think it's fair to judge them outside of high end content. A little extra healer DPS will help, yes, but if the player isn't comfortable then that potential for a wipe will make the run go all that much slower.
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    You say that'd be a solution to something, but that's something you do anyway!

    That aside: There is no solution to lazy. There is no solution to bad. And the one or two people that actually have a medical disability can simply step up from the start and warn the group that they're not fully functional. People tend to be a lot more understanding if they know you're playing with your feet out of necessity rather than for the lulz.
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  7. #7
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    Kanitezz's Avatar
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    Character
    Jubii Io
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I don't understand the mentality behind people who cry about this. "Boo-hoo. The healer is doing less work than me" Is that it? I don't understand why its such a big deal. People act like this is a IRL job and not some video game they're playing. Letting it stress them out and shorten their lifespan. Smh.
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  8. #8
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    Rhymenoserous's Avatar
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    Sayyida Al'hura
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanitezz View Post
    I don't understand the mentality behind people who cry about this. "Boo-hoo. The healer is doing less work than me" Is that it? I don't understand why its such a big deal. People act like this is a IRL job and not some video game they're playing. Letting it stress them out and shorten their lifespan. Smh.
    Everyone should strive to not suck as nothing more than common courtesy to the groups they are with. "I'm lazy so you have to suffer" is no way to go about really anything.
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  9. #9
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    Kirika Trimani
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    It is sad to see how toxic the attitude of the community can get. Tanks are meant to get spanked - and Healers are meant to keep you alive. You want me to DPS during your pull? Cool, then I suggest not pulling so many mobs that I can barely keep you alive, Especially with the new content I will not right-out DPSing with the other 2 DPS. I will throw in my Aero's, and see how quickly you lose your health, and whatever attacks will or may happen that will drop people's health quickly so I have to react right away. If the group mobs pulled aren't going down as fast, may as well pull less, as some of the DPS often can't handle as many or do not know how to. Do not blame a Class that isn't even meant for DPSing for doing their job. Will do what I can to "DPS" with you, but my mainconcern should, and always will be, the health of the whole party. And if I feel there is not enough time to throw in a Holy, then I won't. This may change once everyone got their higher Gear and I feel more comfortable with the Dungeons, but again... Geez. It is so sad to see people go at each others throats lately. It is Healers who will get blamed for too big pulls and maybe someone ending up dead when our MP will be drained, we will get blamed if an DPS ran into every AoE they could find and we couldn't throw heals quickly enough even though you've been giving your best, and you'll blame us now for "not DPSing". Wearing STR Gear won't change any of your DPS. And it will not buy us 15 mins to get quicker out of a dungeon.
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  10. #10
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    Lildragora's Avatar
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    Lillian Mandragora
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    I recall a run of Omega v3. Party was topped off, regens up, Shield was up. Aoe went out, party got topped up and fey union was put on the tank. Tank was topped for the entire duration of it from 100 gauge and the co-healer just stood around doing nothing. Im all for keeping parties alive but there comes a time where people really should just use their abilities.

    On a side note, this game as a whole, as I have experienced is never happy with healers unless it is a premade. People hate healers, you dps and get yelled at and you dont so you get yelled at, you get yelled at for 80% hp on tanks, you get yelled at for not letting regen do its job and be a over time heal or you get yelled at for letting regens heal over time. If the shoe fits, you suck and you need to stop. This even seems to follow through on development with a clear bias in some cases or at least a lack of understanding. From ARR to SB
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    Last edited by Lildragora; 07-13-2017 at 04:04 PM.

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