Solution to healers not dpsing in dungeons

[Akelya]

SE does need to intervene. The community seems as toxic as never before, and it is just sad to see. Plus, I can foresee many people giving up the game because of such behaviour. They do need to punish the ones kicking for no reason. Being abusive, and mean to others. Do not just tell them "No, no, here, sit 30 mins in the corner and calm down." because that is not a real solution, and it will drive the "nice people" away from this MMO sooner or later.

[Shyluv]

I don't think they're saying you have to DPS while the tank pulls 3 groups of mobs. Cause clearly, if they do, you'll not just be standing there. You'll be semi spamming cure/2 or the equivalent. But once some of those mobs die, usually there's still at least three that are around half health.

If you have enough MP after healing through the heavier part of the pull, regen should be more than enough for the tank to not die. When it's just 3 mobs left and they're at half health or lower, I have let the tank drop below 50% while we finished off the last mob. I had essential dignity ready, though. But rarely have I ever needed to use it in such a case.


That said, if I'm at less than half MP and lucid dreaming isn't going to be back up for the next pull, then I will just stand there. As AST, I likely won't be doing nothing though. I'll either be setting up my next cards, or if they're already set up, I'll be trying to make them more optimal. If they're already optimal, then yes. I will just stand there. I've had people argue with me that, even in that case I shouldn't just stand there. Cause the faster the mobs die, the quicker we'll be out of combat and the sooner my MP will refresh. Nice theory. Doesn't always work like that though.

[Tufelhunden]

Sorry but in PUGs I expect the healer to do one thing and one thing only, keep me and the DPS up, presuming I do my part. Anything beyond that, in a PUG, is gravy. In statics, nowwe can discuss what my FC mates do and don't do, because as a team that's a decision we make.

[Yuella]

You can PF a duty roulette and say "requires healer to dps". then if the healer still doesnt dps, kick him.

in a random PUG DF, i don't mind if the healer doesn't dps

[Kyrph]

I will never tell a healer to dps or yell at a healer for not dpsing in a dungeon because I understand that is not their job and honestly in most cases it isn't really needed. However in ffxiv healers have the ability to put out some really decent damage and using the excuse that I am healer, I shouldn't have to dps or my dps isn't needed is not really a great attitude especially if there is plenty of opportunity to do some damage without putting your party in danger. In world of warcraft most healers don't even have many opportunity to dps and when they do it is so insignificant it doesn't change anything. Just my opinion and again I am not saying if you don't dps as a healer you are bad or are doing anything wrong.

[HoodRat]

I once joined an a12s pf. Despite me pulling and requiring no healing whatsoever for literally the first ~18 seconds of the fight, the healers still wouldn't dps, and when I politely asked why, half the party went crazy and got upset at me.

I guess expecting healers to dps when they have nothing else to do for more than 15 seconds is asking too much.

[LathusWHM]

If healers refuse to dps in dungeons well I'm going to use full str accessories and stay in deliverance, sword oath and no grit no problem.

If you refuse to tank properly I am going to not heal you? Typical tank thinking they control the flow of a dungeon. Sit down kid, we all know healers are the ones who control groups.

Also, any competent healer would not be phased by your silly attempts to make the dungeon hard.

[Penthea]

If healers refuse to dps in dungeons well I'm going to use full str accessories and stay in deliverance, sword oath and no grit no problem.

I do wonder what lvl bracket you're referring to. If the healer is lvl 50+, yea I expect them to dps if the situation allows for it. However I am much more lenient on players below lvl 50 as they are likely still getting to grips with the role.

And to be fair nothing in the game actually tells you that you must dps as a healer in dungeons. This is something players invented, not SE. So if a new player has mostly been on their own with no one to tell them different, they may only heal because they think it's all they're supposed to do. That is actually the case for healers in other mmos.

[SeriousxSarcasm]

I'm disappointed the solution wasn't "shut up and play the healer yourself."

[Kurando]

Yup, seconded to everyone that mentioned STR accessories. You want healers to DPS, well stop expecting them to heal so much because of ineffective gear and maybe they would have more time to do it.