graphics card/processor help!

[Zorlin]

Been building pcs for 15years worked in 2 hardware stores been an oc/hardware fan for years believe me i know what im saying. the i7 2600k bottlenecks ff14 with everything maxed at 1080p. Ill get some screenies in abit. download MSI afterburner and have gfx loads on screen when a gfx load is not 100% and yr fps arent cap at 60 means yr cpu is bottleneck in this case its the engine fault. you think they building an engine from scratch just cause they have free time?
Nasomi a 6950 alone can max ff14 at 1080p. ive got both my 6950 mod into 6970s. Crossfire/no cf gives the same fps. It is CPU bottleneck not cause the cpu isnt powerful but the engine makes bad use of multiple cores. youll have a core at the 80%-90% while others being way lower. Just try it yrself show me 60fps in uldah in a populated place.

[neorei]

thank you everyone for the replies, your knowledge is helping really understand computers and how to get a decent system.


right now according to the benchmark that SE gave i am scoring 1200 (nothing running) on high and 2200 on low. with all the suggestions i'll look up online and everything and give a list out to see what will help me achive this. again thank you for the help everyone. (also will look into a cooler also)

[Zorlin]

With a better video card that cpu will prolly cap you in the 4000s id go with 6950/560TI if i were you both go for about 200€ not sure in $.

[TypeZ]

hello all,


I don't know if this is the right forums to put this question in but I have like a graphic card inquiry.

I have a AMD Phenom II X4 3.2 GHz processor, 8 gigs of ram and a GT 440 graphic card,550 Watt plug. I can play FFXIV all on standard with 30-35 FPS. I was wondering with what i got should I get a better graphic card? what would you guys suggest?

I want to play this game on max, so (help me out)

GTX 550 Ti 1GB GDDR5<------ That's all u need. best card for good price.

[ispano]

It's both to a degree. The guy talking about the 2600K (You can also use an i5 2500K, same thing for games honestly) is pretty much right. You won't see 100% CPU usage since the game cannot use all the cores, but it will push one rather hard, it is an unoptimized MMO after all. AMD isn't horrible, but they pale in comparison to Intel's Sandy Bridge right now, and I prefer AMD. Especially since Sandy OCs very well. For the Video Card, that thing's budget and some people have given some good suggestions already.

Lastly. The guy saying the human eye can only see 30 fps. Go research that again, or troll elsewhere. The eye doesn't see in fps at all. It sees changes.

EDIT: To add to the guy talking about the bad use of multiple cores. They could optimize it somewhat, but due to how games work on that level, it's difficult to split the main process into threads. Everything has to be done in a certain order, and if it splits it up some things might finish before needed or too soon and mess everything up. A few games, like strategy for instance, are easier to split up however.

[DAOWAce]

2 options.

1) Wait for 2.0; which is when they actually release a game on an engine that's optimized for Windows.

2) Grab a 2500K and a 560 Ti. Overclock the 2500K to 4.3GHz (most motherboards do this at the push of a button, completely safe nowadays).

FFXIV is heavily CPU focused; just buying a new GPU won't really do all that much.


Edit: And yes, the guy 'trolling' (spouting factually incorrect information) about 30 FPS needs to go educate himself. Eyes work with light and electrical impulses, not framerates. Also, 30 vs 60 FPS is clearly visible to anyone with a functioning brain, just like a 60 to 120Hz monitor (TFT based) has a clear difference to anyone with functioning eyes, even on the desktop. (wait, am I getting into the wrong subject here?)

[indira]

its your card
GT card = crap
GTX card = godly if you get the top model of that series. 480,580,etc.

processor is up to the right speed.

if you have a SSD it helps alot keeps you pc from bogging loading crap too slow of a normal HDD.

[Coldfire]

Lastly. The guy saying the human eye can only see 30 fps. Go research that again, or troll elsewhere. The eye doesn't see in fps at all. It sees changes.

Fps has nothing to do with what the eye can do anyway. It's about frame-to-frame transition. Shooters usually require a higher fps due to the fast movement of objects and the view. Ffxiv though wouldn't profit from it as it is very slow and the netcode wouldn't allow any fast gameplay anyway.

[nasomi]

Can someone tell me how I have a pegged single core here?

http://i.imgur.com/ZjVDp.jpg

Because I see balancing of cores and no single core pegged, yet I see pegged gpu. Something tells me that those that say the cpu is a limiting factor don't monitor their cpu or gpu usage while playing.

For the record, I have never seen a single core pegged, let alone all the cores pegged, and I have my task manager up all the time, because it's pretty easy with 3 monitors.

[ispano]

Fps has nothing to do with what the eye can do anyway. It's about frame-to-frame transition. Shooters usually require a higher fps due to the fast movement of objects and the view. Ffxiv though wouldn't profit from it as it is very slow and the netcode wouldn't allow any fast gameplay anyway.

Uh, that's basically what I said. Frame-to-frame transitions are changes, which is what the eye picks up on, like I said...

Like being in a dark room where a light flashes for an extraordinarily short time, yet you still see it, even if it would be equivalent to 120fps of black with one white frame.