How bad are the issues with DRK?

[RyuujinZERO]

At present DRK can do all content in the game without encountering any serious issues, and the class is a lot of fun to play (If that is your preferred playstyle anyway ).,.. at least until you get downsynced and lose all your intresting skills.

The 'problem' is simply that DRK is inferior to the other two tanks in just about every way (Mitigation, DPS, Survivability), and therefore in bleeding edge content/elite groups, is undesirable especially if they release yet harder content, and DRk's weaknesses become a serious burden to the team.

I say, if you like DRK's style - go with it. Balance is a moving target and changes from patch to patch, it's unlikely DRK will be 'bad forever', all of the tanks have at varying stages been undesirable due to sucking in one way or another. 4.0 is our turn to suck. What's important is you play the class you enjoy

[Mnemosynia]

If you were a DRK before expansion you will not like the changes, if your just now looking into DRK given you did not feel what you lost you may find your self enjoying the class. As for how it stacks up to classes here what you need to know.

As of all of the parses on the net they do the least dps, i believe a poster in thread copy and pasted one.
Have possibly the worst leveling exprience in the entire game.
Lowest HP pool.
Best aoe power.
And the worst defensive cds of the tanks this will include TBN it does not save the entire DRK kit.

[Wyndam]

I feel like Dark Knight is in a relatively good place. I need to play Paladin again, it just put me to sleep during early access and I haven't really looked back since the other people who want to tank in my FC are all going PLD.

[Lossless]

I'm new to Dark Knighting. I got into it because I wanted a change from the usual DPS classes I play. The problem I have with it is that during the lower levels it's so... boring

I've spent my time grinding dungeons with very capable healers and I'm gratified when drawing enemies away from my DPS buddies, but when it comes to keeping up aggro I lose a lot motivation. I have two combos, one that has very limited strategic use (right now). Most of the time I'm just spamming the same few buttons over and over again. I can turn my head away comfortably and watch Netflix or Twitch. I get so bored I want to pull 3+ mobs just to spice things up. Really hoping for that light at the end of the tunnel.

[Dizzy_Derp]

The FF logs are placing warrior DPS as ~7-8% ahead of paladin and a bit more over Drk. War also has one of the best defensive cooldown sets in the game. Certainly it's a fault of the game that defensive ability is useless, but warrior does have merits and is in nowhere near a bad a shape as you imply.

Warrior just needs some QOL changes and a slight buff to damage and everything will be fine.

Idk what your talking about. Top pld parse is 3590 top war is 3198
Pld is doing way more damage, that's a fact

[Dizzy_Derp]

Agree about the raid utility, but literally the only range that war isn't in the top dps spot for tanks is the top 9 percentile... While I get that you fall in that top 9 percentile, even your own war parses are higher than your pld. War is gonna be the goto secondary tank for speed-runs/farming after you no longer need the utility.

The only reason my old is lower damage is because I haven't really played it. I only did like five times or something running with some friends and I got pretty sloppy in the end phase. If I tightened up my rotation on the later phases I would be doing more damage than my old. But yeah war does do more than drk.

[Derio]

Problems are mostly for under lvl 70 where the job lacks mitigation tools, due to many being taken away or modified.

However even at lvl70 DRK lacks mitigation compared to WAR and PLD and currently does the least amount of damage out of the 3 tanks

[TheCount]

Problems are mostly for under lvl 70 where the job lacks mitigation tools, due to many being taken away or modified.

However even at lvl70 DRK lacks mitigation compared to WAR and PLD and currently does the least amount of damage out of the 3 tanks

I really don't understand how they let it go through that you have a tank now that is bad in both those area's. I could understand a tank that has slightly less mitigation than usual but has a lot of damage (and through that, some self-healing) to compensate for that. I could understand a tank that has more mitigation than usual but has slightly lower damage than usual. I could understand a tank that has both in balance with eachother while not specializing

But bad in both those areas? You just messed up the balancing of a tank and it's glaringly obvious.

[Martin_Arcainess]

We have issues?

[Vanroe]

I'm personally enjoying Drk right now. Its definitely simplified from what it was in HW with most oGCD skills being replaced with dark arts spam, and for me, I prefer that, but I know others people enjoyed the complexity it had. DRK certainly feels incomplete until you get to 64/68, since you have this blood gauge you cant actually do much with. Our capstone, TBN, Im treating kinda like IB on WAR, quick mitigation, for tank busters, provided you've saved MP. I havent tried WAR post HW and my paladin is still sitting at 50 (cant seem myself leveling another class to 70 after DRK/AST/BLM, for a while), so I cant offer any comparisons.

I usually main healer and from a healing perspective Drk seems fine, along with paladin, War feels very squish though, I find myself spamming benefic 2 alot on them in dungeons.