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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90

    People Who You Blacklist Shouldn't Be Able To Emote You

    Why is this still a thing. Make it so that using an emote on a blacklisted person is rejected. It's a loophole with harassment.
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    SinisterJoints's Avatar
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    Lunafreya Valentine
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    Jenova
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    Fisher Lv 90
    what kind of harassment are you experiencing with these emotes? Are they offensive?
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    Vash Warbreaker
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    huh, I kind of just assumed that you wouldn't be able to see the emote text of someone you've blacklisted. If you still can, yeah it needs to be fixed.

    Now if you're saying they shouldn't be able to do it at all, that I don't think is the intent of blacklisting.
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    Last edited by FaileExperiment; 07-11-2017 at 09:47 AM. Reason: to clarify that I'm referring to the emotes text, not the animation.

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    SinisterJoints's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaileExperiment View Post
    huh, I kind of just assumed that you wouldn't be able to see the emotes of someone you've blacklisted. If you still can, yeah it needs to be fixed.

    Now if you're saying they shouldn't be able to do it at all, that I don't think is the intent of blacklisting.
    thats what I thought, I thought you couldnt see the text of the emote. Or is the OP referring to actually seeing the person do it?
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Blacklisted players can still stalk, harass, and annoy you to their heart's content. It just prevents them from speaking to you.

    Basically you could be crafting away and the person you blacklisted can walk right up and make as many gestures and emotes they want, even if they can't text chat with you anymore.

    It IS an oversight, and I don't think it's extreme at all if blacklisting someone makes them invisible to you and vice-versa. You shouldn't still have to deal with them.
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    RayneLittlewinkle's Avatar
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    Tesni Eiddwen
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    You can see the emotes they do sadly. But if they say anything in say or shout chat your not able to see it. I agree they do need to fix it.
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    Luna Faye
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    There's a lot of things blacklisted people shouldn't do. Sadly SE's blacklist feature only works half way if even, sometimes I think we might as well not have it at all, since all it restricts are tells and grayed out party finders. It still doesn't block people from being matched with you via Duty or Raid finder or even emotes. Pretty sure there's some other things, it won't prevent people on your BL from. So what's the deal of having it at all?
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    kattzkitti's Avatar
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    Mako Hext
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Ultimately, the blacklist feature is pretty much worthless. Squeenix needs to prioritise fixing this, with all the below (and possibly more, if I forgot anything).

    - It should blacklist the player's entire account, not just the particular character you happened to run into.
    - It should render that player's character(s) invisible to you, as well as render your characters invisible to them.
    - It should automatically remove them from any of your social lists (friends, FC, etc), and remove you from theirs.
    - It should remove them from the pool of players that the Duty Finder can match you with, and you from their pool.
    - It should automatically hide their Party Finder listings, and hide yours from them.
    - It should prevent them from being added to any party you happen to be in, and vice versa.

    There's probably more things I haven't thought of, but this covers the absolute most basics at least.
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    Ultimately, the blacklist feature is pretty much worthless. Squeenix needs to prioritise fixing this, with all the below (and possibly more, if I forgot anything).

    - It should blacklist the player's entire account, not just the particular character you happened to run into.
    - It should render that player's character(s) invisible to you, as well as render your characters invisible to them.
    - It should automatically remove them from any of your social lists (friends, FC, etc), and remove you from theirs.
    - It should remove them from the pool of players that the Duty Finder can match you with, and you from their pool.
    - It should automatically hide their Party Finder listings, and hide yours from them.
    - It should prevent them from being added to any party you happen to be in, and vice versa.

    There's probably more things I haven't thought of, but this covers the absolute most basics at least.
    This is a game, not tumblr.

    The blacklist feature should only:
    - Prevent direct messages, whisper/tell/yell/shout, as the blacklist is basically client sided
    - Hide the text of players who emote at you if blacklisted
    - Hide the name of players who you blacklist
    - Hide the player itself, their pet and mount from being rendered

    That is all client-controlled behavior and other games have it.

    Anything involving the party or duty finder would not be practical since you can blacklist someone by accident, and since they involve cross-realm systems, it would be easily defeated if there was an actual malicious intent behind it, and not someone simply being creepy.

    For managing the duty finder, you should be able to bring up the "contacts" list and any party you've been kicked from, or have kicked will have a "temporary blacklisted to avoid being matched again for 30 days" automatically and you can clear it in case of a mistake.
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    Char Mae
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    - It should automatically remove them from any of your social lists (friends, FC, etc), and remove you from theirs.
    - It should prevent them from being added to any party you happen to be in, and vice versa.
    Um..no. Everything else you mentioned I 100% agree with and some of the things you mentioned, the blist already does, but these two? absolutely not lol and for obvious reasons such as if someone is easily offended - (and there's loads of those snowflakes nowadays), I sincerily hope you don't mean the blisted person should be forcibly removed from the FC, and just straight up No to the last one 'It should prevent them from being added to any party you happen to be in, and vice versa'. I can't join a party because someone in it who isn't even the leader blacklisted me is in it? lolno, if they have a problem with me, then they either stay or gtfo. I ain't going anywhere.
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    Last edited by Venoshock; 07-11-2017 at 04:02 PM.

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