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  1. #21
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    EllieShadeflare's Avatar
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    Of course I use my centurio seals that I'd basically have no other use but spend on Materia VI, and of course I'd use it on Quicktongue where I can, since it has one of the highest weights for casters. Unless, of course, you mean ignoring the 310-320, because I'm not gonna ignore that juicy 200+speed on the Genji coat and pants. I just need more tokens, is all.

    Besides, Materia VI can make up for most gaps in stats, so there's that.

    Edit: Wait, I didn't even get much in materia for quicktongue. I guess I just chose gear with high speed, and holding out for the omega gear with its juicy speed?
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    Last edited by EllieShadeflare; 07-11-2017 at 05:25 PM.

  2. #22
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    Maxu Habufan
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllieShadeflare View Post
    Okay, but what's your set up? I'm on a crit 1578, speed 1897, and direct hit at 1042.

    3.x got me to 14% and 4.x got me to 6% (with fumbles) on Susano EX Stone Sky Sea.

    The 4.0 rotation would perform better on a dummy. That much is true. The point of concern is the DPS you lose from missing a cast of F4 due to movement which leads to the 4.0 rotation performing less DPS. I highly recommend you experience it yourself on Susano EX. Parse a few runs on 4.0 then proceed with 3.0. You should be netting an increase in DPS.

    My experience with 4.0 vs 3.0 is that upon switching to 3.0, I was able to increase my average DPS by 200 on that fight.
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    Last edited by soslinky; 07-11-2017 at 05:37 PM.

  3. #23
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    Karja Ashdale
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    He's talking about the fact that you are using i300 items and especially the i300 weapon. No idea if you did Lakshmi and Susano but secondaries are not worth dropping 20 ilv on a weapon or even on a armor.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karja View Post
    He's talking about the fact that you are using i300 items and especially the i300 weapon. No idea if you did Lakshmi and Susano but secondaries are not worth dropping 20 ilv on a weapon or even on a armor.
    Alas, I don't play the game 24-7, so I don't exactly have the freedom of getting the bestest gear quickly.

    I will be getting my Verity weapon after my next Omega run, which does have plenty of Spell Speed, and has 310 ilvl, so it's not like I'm deliberately crippling myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soslinky View Post
    The 4.0 rotation would perform better on a dummy. That much is true. The point of concern is the DPS you lose from missing a cast of F4 due to movement which leads to the 4.0 rotation performing less DPS. I highly recommend you experience it yourself on Susano EX. Parse a few runs on 4.0 then proceed with 3.0. You should be netting an increase in DPS.

    My experience with 4.0 vs 3.0 is that upon switching to 3.0, I was able to increase my average DPS by 200 on that fight.
    Can't parse on PS4, though there may be a point to mobility, but that's essentially the only reason to use the 3.x rotation.
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  6. #26
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    Maxu Habufan
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllieShadeflare View Post
    Can't parse on PS4, though there may be a point to mobility, but that's essentially the only reason to use the 3.x rotation.
    Is the additional 200 DPS and mobility not a good enough reason to prefer 3.0 over 4.0 rotation?
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  7. #27
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    Nox Lumina
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    I'm not playing 24/7, I'm not that bored :V
    I've been occasionally punching dummies and lamenting what SMN and BLM have become though.

    SMN makes me sad it's so unfun to play v.v
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoxLumina View Post
    I'm not playing 24/7, I'm not that bored :V
    I've been occasionally punching dummies and lamenting what SMN and BLM have become though.

    SMN makes me sad it's so unfun to play v.v
    That Eirene Snow person is having fun on SMN. I'm actually thinking of leveling SMN after reading her thoughts on the job.
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  9. #29
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    And people wonder why there are so many RDMs...
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  10. #30
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    Nox Lumina
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    Quote Originally Posted by soslinky View Post
    That Eirene Snow person is having fun on SMN. I'm actually thinking of leveling SMN after reading her thoughts on the job.
    Yeeaa so I was told. But it's.. weird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nezia View Post
    And people wonder why there are so many RDMs...
    I refuse to continue playing RDM out of spite at this point.
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    Last edited by NoxLumina; 07-11-2017 at 06:08 PM.

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