Why Black Mage Needs (a teensy bit of) Help

[Karja]

#thathappened

Since TC and Firestarter procs are flat out better than a F4, I can see a world in where a lucky 2.0 rotations outperforms a unlucky 4.0 rotation. You also have to account for Crit or Direct hit crit on Fouls.

Fire 129.6 pps
Fire 4 156 pps
Firestarter 172.8 pps
TC initial hit is 156 pps even without a single tick it's the same pps as Fire 4 but you keep the dot rolling.

[NoxLumina]

Do you want a video :U
I should add at this point though, that I killed the dummy with SB rotation once and it was pretty bad try and I tried multiple times to get that quicker kill with the 2.0 rotation.
Dummy runs on a normal dummy (which my statics RDM had to parse cuz PS4, yay) came out around 4.1k as opposed to 4.3-4.5k with the SB rota.
Considering the inevitable MP tick fuckery and the fact that you'll have to move and drop Fire IVs in actual fights it might be that doing the HW or ARR rotation will actually yield a better outcome for a BLM right now.

[EllieShadeflare]

I would like a video, because it makes about as much sense as conspiracy theories. My general experience is that my damage, beyond the lower potency of Fire IV and Blizzard IV, is much higher per 30s than HW.

[NoxLumina]

View edit in last post. I will be home in about 7 hours then Ian try to crap out another atrocity like that.

I shit you not when I tell you that happened though.
It's not like the ARR rotation is more effective on a dummy I think it's like 9% weaker or something. But that's enough to actually come out higher if you luck out on procs and had a bad run with the SB rotation before that.

They screwed up BLM. Doing a 3 year old rotation shouldn't be that effective.

[Lelila38]

2.x rotation aside, which is only a small dps loss in movement heavy situations, I've experienced myself that the F4-F4-F1-F4-F4 rotation from HW days does more dps than the new SB rotation with Umbral Hearts (for whatever reason). Also if you look at Fflogs, the top Blms all use B4 and UH exclusively for their openers.

[EllieShadeflare]

Okay, but what's your set up? I'm on a crit 1578, speed 1897, and direct hit at 1042.

3.x got me to 14% and 4.x got me to 6% (with fumbles) on Susano EX Stone Sky Sea.

[NoxLumina]

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/6546132/

Boop!

[Lelila38]

I should add in an actual fight. On paper 4.0 should be better, more F4=more dps, however if you cannot fit in 6 F4 for each B4, which in an actual fight you can't, it's a dps loss.
I haven't tested these rotations on dummies, as I'm in PS4 and we still got no way of seeing our numbers, but several other people have posted their results in the thread linked a few posts before.
On Susano Ex, I had a friend parse me and I did higher numbers using B4 only for opener.

[EllieShadeflare]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...aign=na_mychar

Boop!

Yup, only about 1400 spell speed. I can see the problem there.

[NoxLumina]

Yup, only about 1400 spell speed. I can see the problem there.

No problem there outside of Square screwing up.

I remember near the end of Heavensward when a friend and I tried turning me into a spell Gatling. Damage started falling off at some point.
No crits ever and low damage from lack of any Determination. Fun stuff.

Edit: Oooh you're violently stacking Spell speed disregarding item level.