Why Summoner Needs Help

[Angry_Evil]

I'm not sure from where you gather I don't cast Ruin III outside of DWT. The 6 next Ruin III costing no mana instead of DWT being a 15 second stance is because the latter makes SMN more vulnerable to random mechanics, disables, phases where movement is required and random screw ups in general.

Just a thought. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The 6 next Ruin III costing no mana instead of DWT being a 15 second stance is because the latter makes SMN more vulnerable to random mechanics, disables, phases where movement is required and random screw ups in general.

Sorry but this just doesn't make any sense to me. Sure DWT makes u stay in place and cast ruin3 without moving. But changing r3 to r2 once in dwt for movement etc. is not the end of the world. And certainly not something that makes other summoners uderperform in 4.0 or cry about punishment on forums. You lose your stack before dwt - and your build up and dps screwed for 60+ seconds. Still punishing af

Bahamut - Just make it AA like the pet independently.

I wonder about that tho... I don't dislike idea behind bahamut, how he does something only when we do it. But implementation is problematic. So it's a dilemma do we really need to dumb down bahamut? SO he would do 12 wirmwaves automatically - this certainly will raise summoners significantly, but leave job even more brain dead than it is now. Or should we just say "git gud" to summoners and make them learn how to properly manage bahamut?(then tho smn needs boost anyway cause your efforts are not properly rewarded in this case)

Saving your whole arsenal for this thing (which is what you are forced to do now) turns SMN into a "Gonna summon Baha now hopefully nothing screws me over for the next 20 seconds or I'm gonna meet the very bottom of the parser at the speed of the light.

hmm I don't know how you're playing summoner but it certainly not that punishing for me. Screwing something when u summon bahamut making him cast less wyrmwaves still means you used 3 festers and 2 akh morns giving you decent dps boost. I rarely find myself in the very bottom of the parses if I don't die anyway. Not much people know how to properly play their classes in this game, even if it's "easy" class like RDM...