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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Will physick be changed to match vercure?

    So with RDM getting an INT based heal, will physick be changed to INT on SMN and ARN? It's entirely possible for them to do this since SCH DoTs are being changed to MND. With the loss of sustain, having a decent heal for both ourselves and our pet seems like a reasonable trade off.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 06-09-2017 at 09:35 PM.
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    While this is a legitimate question, you've posted at a bad time... this thread is probably just gonna get flamed by all the healer dps trolling that's going around.
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    A heal from my SMN to my pet would be nice if I need to do it. Currently my work around was going to be pet placement but that could run into the micro managing road I don't want to go down.

    I personally will say mind, because even though we get the heal prior to being a healing job (from ACN to SCH) we get synced down to that level and will need it. Then again are cures required to be that powerful at those levels? No idea...

    I'll throw my vote in for Mind but it's a very good question so I won't argue INT.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 06-09-2017 at 10:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValentineSnow View Post
    by all the healer dps trolling that's going around.
    ....

    ...what?

    While I'm as tired of those threads as anyone, I've never seen them take an issue with clemency,, or the more recent vercure, etc. Why do you suddenly think they would care about this?
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    RDM gets is to make their utility unique and it fits in with the theme of RDM being able to use white and black magic. People have tested physick and shown it's still weak on SMN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    RDM gets is to make their utility unique and it fits in with the theme of RDM being able to use white and black magic. People have tested physick and shown it's still weak on SMN.
    I disagree. Vercure and Physick should heal for similar amounts - RDM uniqueness is Dualcast which effectively would make Vercure twice as good as Physick.
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    I disagree. Vercure and Physick should heal for similar amounts - RDM uniqueness is Dualcast which effectively would make Vercure twice as good as Physick.
    Each role has their uniqueness.

    RDM can heal/dps, but their AoE is atrocious. 100 potency AoE and one 45 sec 300 potency AoE.

    SMN can tank with Titan, and has supremely good AoE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Each role has their uniqueness.

    RDM can heal/dps, but their AoE is atrocious. 100 potency AoE and one 45 sec 300 potency AoE.

    SMN can tank with Titan, and has supremely good AoE
    Not anymore we can't, since sustain is gone. Titan is squishy, he'll be dying in seconds now lol. I'd say SMN uniqueness is multitasking, sustained damage and damage without lifting a finger lol. I send ifrit and garuda out to kill annoying creatures out in the world as I continue my relaxation.
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    Last edited by Vallhallix; 06-11-2017 at 11:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerinn View Post
    I disagree. Vercure and Physick should heal for similar amounts - RDM uniqueness is Dualcast which effectively would make Vercure twice as good as Physick.
    dual cast is nothing more than swift cast.
    it still takes up a GCD.

    so it takes 2 GCDs to land 2 Vercures.
    it takes up 2 GCDs to land 2 Physicks.

    also, I disagree, SMN isnt known for their heals.
    RDM is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    dual cast is nothing more than swift cast.
    it still takes up a GCD.

    so it takes 2 GCDs to land 2 Vercures.
    it takes up 2 GCDs to land 2 Physicks.
    For the purpose of emergency healing, Dualcast is actually worth noting. While it is correct that two GCDs would be used in either case, the Red Mage would essentially drop a 700 potency cure in the span of 2.5-3 seconds whereas a Summoner would have only been able to heal for 400 potency in that same span of time. Between the two, Red Mage will have greater life saving potential.
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