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  1. #1
    Player
    Caduagm's Avatar
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    Character
    Vincent Highwindus
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Lock stuff that we used to be free, I don't know if that's a good idea (Aethertrail and Aetherflow). When I was leveling SMN (3rd day of SB) I could see the big difference already: before SB I was doing 2,7k on the dummy and at level 63 I did 2.1k.
    -SMN was the ONLY job who got the potency of their main spell nerfed by 50 potency.
    -SMN and MCH were the only 2 jobs (between the 15) who lost a 40 POTENCY DoT.
    We are now a ruin machine. We gotta depend on RNG (which by the way... SMN having dependency on RNG is new) to have our would Ruin III potency back. I wonder why they just didn't make a proc like "Enhanced Ruin III" and give us something better than our old Ruin III potency with a different animation.
    Right now I'm using Ifrit, I won't ever use Garuda again until they change its reponsibility, because lining up all my CDs to a perfect Bahamut Summon and she doesn't use contagion (or use it after like 3 GCDs) is just no.
    Devotion: make us at least target the party member, since we can target an enemy with Enkindle why not a party member with Devotion?
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    Last edited by Caduagm; 07-13-2017 at 07:15 PM.

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    ShadowYomi's Avatar
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    Character
    Yomi Erebus
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    I would like if devotion affected the whole party if they were by my pet if they don't let us pick a target or let us gain the effect. Had a blm that didn't even know I was buffing them.
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  3. #3
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Bevelle, Besaid Island
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    Character
    Flower Girl
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Potecy buff isn't the awnser - nothing would change in mechanic, flow, punishment, skill logouts sadly in nothing nor would the 3rd dot or bane shadowflare revamp. I don't get why people want higher potecy... actually potecy is fine overall in skill synergy. Locking out skills and the long dps cd after messing up aether stacks is the problem - I wonder if anyone played smn in pvp yet... the playstyle adjustment on the pvp profil works more fluent after all - pve buffs should go into that kind of direction instead of potecy adjustments...
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    Nerisu's Avatar
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    Character
    Lennard Cruce
    World
    Typhon
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    I wonder if anyone played smn in pvp yet...
    I find SMN more fun than RDM (no idea about BLM) in PVP.
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    koroko220's Avatar
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    Character
    Kai Amaryllis
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    I agree with OP. Red Mage is my absolute favorite job so I was going to change mains anyway, but I'm glad they added it for the fact if they didn't I would have had to find a new main. I have mained summoner since 2.4, having previously mained blm before that since 2.0. I hate the changes to summoner. It just doesn't flow anymore. Maybe at 70 it's slightly better but from 60-65 I just feel like a burden on the party. I can feel the dps difference vs old smn in HW after the final line of buffs smn got, before we immensely outgeared everything. Makes Me sad to see my favorite main just torn to shreds :/
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  6. #6
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    Nirokun's Avatar
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    Character
    Nirokun Moon
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    1) Grant Bahamut casts with each Aetherflow (draw enough Aether to summon Demi-Bahamut, makes sense)
    2) Summoning Bahamut doesnt release existing pet (no more rouse lockout). He will attack same Obey target with no funky Wyrmwave timings, lost Wyrmwave DMG recovered by Bahamut summoning every minute instead of every 2 minutes, boom.
    3) Physick now has sustain effect on your pet, bam fixed.

    #1 will fix heavy punishment for death or missed Fester/Painflare because Aetherflow will just come back and grant Summon Bahamut. Gone are the days that you get 1 Aetherflow stack back (nerfed dmg from stack loss).
    #2 will fix the rouse lockout, make rouse and Aetherflow for Bahamut summonings super sexy. Not having to waste all your skills (virus plz) just for a Wyrmwave makes sense. Besides, more Bahamut and more Deathflare > More Wyrmwave! It will also allow summoners to use Summon II again.
    #3 Sustain is back, rejoice!
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    "Dream lofty dreams, and as you dream, so you shall become." - James Lane Allen

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    Player
    Gallus's Avatar
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    Character
    Vermilion Rose
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun View Post
    Physick now has sustain effect on your pet, bam fixed.
    For the love of god stop asking for this! You shouldn't be asking for any form of spell that heals your pet, no real DPS player will ever waste GCDs to heal the pet that's absolutely unreasonable in any half serious content. If you want to ask for something...ask for the pet to be even more resilient to AOEs or completely immune.
    As for solo content... chocobo or swap to healer and problem solved... (which isn't all that hard considering you have SCH for free when leveling SMN...talk about complaining for the sake of complaining).
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    Last edited by Gallus; 07-14-2017 at 03:11 PM.

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    Player
    Nirokun's Avatar
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    Character
    Nirokun Moon
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    For the love of god stop asking for this! You shouldn't be asking for any form of spell that heals your pet, no real DPS player will ever waste GCDs to heal the pet that's absolutely unreasonable in any half serious content. If you want to ask for something...ask for the pet to be even more resilient to AOEs or completely immune.
    As for solo content... chocobo or swap to healer and problem solved... (which isn't all that hard considering you have SCH for free when leveling SMN...talk about complaining for the sake of complaining).
    Whoa whoa whoa, chill out. Sustain was a functional aspect of Arcanist from the beginning, and if you actually played the job and pushed what it could do, Sustain was not a hindrance. Sustain had such a short cast time it might as well have been a Ruin2 cast because it shot off so early in the GCD you had plenty of time to move + use some other oGCD that SMN has in spades.

    You honestly sound like a SMN that never used Titan-egi to solo hunts, maps, or even tank PotD or dungeons when there was no proper tank. That stuff was incredibly fun and gave real purpose to Titan-egi. If your idea of fixing SMN soloing is to change jobs, you're way off base. Might as well strip all healers of DMG spells and heals from Tanks/DPS.

    Take many seats.
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    "Dream lofty dreams, and as you dream, so you shall become." - James Lane Allen

  9. 07-14-2017 11:56 PM

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    Player
    Inosaska's Avatar
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    Character
    Lotharius Lionheart
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    SMN is in dire need of an overhaul in design. I remember back in Beta when they said the job would be focused on pets but at the moment that appears to have been abandoned all together. I wish they would go back to the original idea they had going with SMN before they decided to make SMN into a Bahamut follower. I like the summon itself but I would rather have a repertoire of summons then the limited amount that we get now.
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