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    The Server situation is unaccettable

    Ixion just spawned on Ragnarok. The Lochs was completely locked down for people who wasn't already inside. People already inside started DCing like hell and lost rewards. The thing that's really frustrating is the fact we are treated like we are not paying for a service. The lack of clear communication and the recent message about "everything being alright" is the final joke in my opinion. If I have a problem with my phone or internet provider, things like that not only are unlikely to happen, but get sorted out quicker than they are in this relatively small community (and this says it all).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CapricaLangley View Post
    Ixion just spawned on Ragnarok. The Lochs was completely locked down for people who wasn't already inside. People already inside started DCing like hell and lost rewards. The thing that's really frustrating is the fact we are treated like we are not paying for a service. The lack of clear communication and the recent message about "everything being alright" is the final joke in my opinion. If I have a problem with my phone or internet provider, things like that not only are unlikely to happen, but get sorted out quicker than they are in this relatively small community (and this says it all).
    People DC'ing is less likely a server problem, and more likely their own PC's. I had friends who used to have that issue every time they went to Idyllshire, or during the S ranks/Odin. They recently got new machines, and no longer have that problem.

    Also, it becomes not a server problem, but a networking one, when the amount of people reaches a certain point. You can only transmit and receive so much data, and if you have to transmit that data to every player that is currently in said instance, it gets multiple time higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    People DC'ing is less likely a server problem, and more likely their own PC's. I had friends who used to have that issue every time they went to Idyllshire, or during the S ranks/Odin. They recently got new machines, and no longer have that problem.

    Also, it becomes not a server problem, but a networking one, when the amount of people reaches a certain point. You can only transmit and receive so much data, and if you have to transmit that data to every player that is currently in said instance, it gets multiple time higher.
    We need to stop making excuses for how poor XIV's servers are. We pay $15 a month to not have these issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    People DC'ing is less likely a server problem, and more likely their own PC's. I had friends who used to have that issue every time they went to Idyllshire, or during the S ranks/Odin. They recently got new machines, and no longer have that problem.

    Also, it becomes not a server problem, but a networking one, when the amount of people reaches a certain point. You can only transmit and receive so much data, and if you have to transmit that data to every player that is currently in said instance, it gets multiple time higher.
    the people "dc'ing" she is referring too is the zone instance lag that gives everyone the DC symbol. they dont actually DC.

    The problem RN is that when Ixion spawns, the zone becomes inaccessible. It's a problem.

    I even get the DC symbol and im rocking a top end PC..its server side. If the server cannot handle the amount of data coming and going then....?
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    The last time I killed Ixion on Balmung it was completely fine. The first time I killed it was terrible. Maybe I just got lucky, but personally it seemed like it had improved. There was no lag or piles of DC'd people all over the place, which was in stark contrast to previous times.

    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoints View Post
    the people "dc'ing" she is referring too is the zone instance lag that gives everyone the DC symbol. they dont actually DC.

    The problem RN is that when Ixion spawns, the zone becomes inaccessible. It's a problem.

    I even get the DC symbol and im rocking a top end PC..its server side. If the server cannot handle the amount of data coming and going then....?
    It's entirely abnormal for more than 500 people to want to access a single zone simultaneously, especially on realms that are not particularly populated. If you can't zone in, wait until it dies down a bit. People still eagerly rush to do Odin and that's half a billion years old, so I sincerely doubt the less-than-a-month-old drops-a-unique-and-highly-recognizable-mount fate is going to suffer from lack of participation anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    We need to stop making excuses for how poor XIVs servers are. We pay $15 a month to not have these issues.
    Again, its not a server problem. Everyone loves to blame the servers, because it can't possibly be anything else, right?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Again, its not a server problem. Everyone loves to blame the servers, because it can't possibly be anything else, right?!
    again, it is the servers. The servers are what handle the instance, the servers are what sends/receives the data...not the network

    Look at it like a car on the freeway... The car is the servers, the network is the freeway. A car can only fit so many people...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Again, its not a server problem. Everyone loves to blame the servers, because it can't possibly be anything else, right?!
    Then fix the networking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoints View Post
    again, it is the servers. The servers are what handle the instance, the servers are what sends/receives the data...not the network

    Look at it like a car on the freeway... The car is the servers, the network is the freeway. A car can only fit so many people...
    And only so many cars can run on the road. #1 reason of people saying "sorry im lagging"? They watch netflix on slow connections while gaming. Not the servers fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    Then fix the networking.
    Reasonable to do, once everyone is on 10Gbit connections. until then tho, I dunno. Server networking is usually 10Gbit, up to 120Gbit or more, depending on how much bandwidth each server needs (physically, logic servers that xiv use are different) if the servers are running 10 or 20 Gbit networks, then its the outside network that is the bottleneck, not the internal server network. if even 100mbit internet connections are rare, with i believe the US national average being like. 5-10mbit.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 07-11-2017 at 09:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    And only so many cars can run on the road.
    Build more roads.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    #1 reason of people saying "sorry im lagging"? They watch netflix on slow connections while gaming. Not the servers fault.
    I get the feeling you havn't even been in a zone that can't handle the amount of players in it. Did you even play in early access?
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    Last edited by Valinis; 07-11-2017 at 09:14 AM.

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