This is a Deployment Tactics topic.

[Alisi]

i feel like they wouldn't do this because it seems overpowered.

I don't think it would be all that overpowered. It would probably be somewhat under utilized. There'd be at least a 120 second CD, on top of all the other CDs in question (exco, stacks, and indom), and you'd have to hold back your bigger healing spells in the meantime. Plus you'd be holding at least 2 stacks back and missing out on the MP regen. I suppose it would be okay if there wasn't continuous raid wide damage going out a whole ton though.

[KDSilver]

I like the idea of excog being deployed, but not with its current CD nor its potency.
120s and 300 potency to align with deployment tactics could indeed be good (and without AF consummed)

[Aldebaran92]

Can definitely get behind this. Ast gets a completely free 720 potency heal every minute, a 650 heal for scholar would hardly be op, especially if it requires Aetherflow. Both abilities would then reward stacking somewhat, Earthly when the heal goes off, deployed Excog before the attack hits. Would make the two different enough to retain at least some form of originality.

[KDSilver]

Yes, Ast has a 720 potency heal but, deployment tactic put shields.
So having a 650 aoe heal + shield is too much.
That's why with a reduced potency, it could be good.

[Parawill]

Yes, Ast has a 720 potency heal but, deployment tactic put shields.
So having a 650 aoe heal + shield is too much.
That's why with a reduced potency, it could be good.

Agreed. And to add... 300 potency shield + 650 AoE heal that procs sub 50% HP for a total of 950 effective "healing." The 300 potency shield can be further boosted with internal sources:

- Largesse at 20%+
- Fey Illumination at 10%+

External sources:

- Defiance at 20%+
- Convalescence 20%+

Honestly I think we're forgetting how powerful Deployment Tactics is, especially when interacting with player's abilities. While it's rare for groups to resort to these kind of tactics if they care not for optimisation and progression in savage tiers (at minimum iLvL), we need to consider how things are not by themselves but in tandem with other players, abilities and even mechanics.

Also bare in mind that if this suggestion became a reality it shifts the priority order to Adlo -> Excog -> Deploy, which will work in our favour so that Deployment Tactics will actually acknowledge Galvanize applying; however, if Adloquium Crits, the player only has a split second to figure out whether or not to apply Excog or not because most of the time, critlo will shield a majority of the damage incoming.

[Jonnycbad]

Excog should "detonate" after 30 sec for a 650 potency Galvanize for an additional 30 sec.

[Aldebaran92]

As someone said, just make it impossible to spread both then. If you're suggesting Deployment to change the potency of Excog from 650 to 300, while still retaining 650 potency when NOT spread, then I agree with you. That was however not what you said in your post, and simply nerfing Excog to 300 potency no matter what would make it even more useless than it already is on a single target.

[KDSilver]

Of course, reducing the potency for aoe only and if it could be deployed.
Otherwise, 650 on single target is fine and shouldn't be changed, 300 would be insignificant

[BloodRubyXII]

This would be absolutely insane for Susano Ex's smash after swords and on O1S. Probably not a good call. At least definitely not at 650 potency.

[Aldebaran92]

In the same manner, noct Ast has innate +15% on all healing spells, while aspected helios heals for 150 potency and adds a shield totalling 150% of hp restored. 150 potency x 1.15 x 1.5 = 258,75 potency shield. Adding Earthly Star on top of that is 978,75 potency effective healing. Every minute, as opposed to Scholar's Deployment which is every 2 minutes.

Now, Ast is insanely powerful and should imo as an Ast main be nerfed (or the other 2 brought up to the same level), but with current numbers, deployed Adlo + Excog would hardly be op. Unless Adlo crits, which would basically invalidate Excog in most situations if it only hits below 50% and isn't changed to an explosion in the same manner as Earthly Star. Still, i never suggested being able to deploy both, but I understand that's not easy to understand.