This is a Deployment Tactics topic.

[Elexander]

I'll be very specific about THIS one skill.

Among all things in the Scholar job, I think that what upsets me the most is the fact that if you want Deployment Tactics to be fully made useful, you have to use Eye for an Eye. There might be a way to make it even BETTER without forcing anyone to use an specific Cross-role skill - that is, Eye for an Eye, which isn't even THAT good in order to be picked as one of our precious 5 cross-role slots -; that is, to keep it or remove it - I don't really mind - of the spreading effect, but also adding Excogitation to that - be it as a trait or as a built-in effect.

In my opinion, being able to spread Excogitation to a whole raid in moments of high raid damage would be extremely useful AND rewarding to raid positioning, knowing that it'd allow the Scholar to fully heal a party by himself with 2 Aetherflow stacks - Indomitability + Excogitation AoE combo would be quite a healing.

Keep in mind that the other two classes CAN do that naturally with their AoE healing skills (while Scholar is deprived of any spammable AoE healing other than Succor, that, in this very situation, kind of "succs".)

This may be just me having completely insane ideas on how that very skill could be improved and change the way Scholars would behave in raid-wide heavy damage incomes in a single bash.

Thoughts?

[Lildragora]

just bumping because I like the idea and how it could address aoe healing on the job.

[inhaledcorn]

I've said this a lot myself. Excog should be passed via Deployment, however, in addition, I don't think it should cost Aetherflow. It's a marginally better Lustrate but can't crit. Just make it a cooldown and remove the Aetherflow aspect. The cooldown for Excog allows it to be up every other Deployment anyway. One more thing, Excog should also automatically go off if the timer runs out or reaches the 50% threshold. This way, it still gets a use no matter what. Earthly Star automatically blows up after the two 10s timers count down with no input. Why is Excog different?

[SendohJin]

i feel like they wouldn't do this because it seems overpowered.

1) agree that they should remove E4E from Deployment
2) Excog on deployment seems like a logical replacement
3) to prevent being overpowered, Deployment should only deploy Excog if no Aldo is deployed.
4) Excog definitely needs to restore HP when the timer expires

[Ogulbuk]

I like this idea.

[Rubiss]

I actually like this idea a lot. It's similar to Earthly Star in a way, but gated by another CD and Aetherflow. I think Excogitation should have a lower CD or no Aetherflow cost too.

[BlueMageQuina]

I've been thinking this same concept and I like this. This is exactly the sort of thing SCH needs to bring it's AOE healing up to par with WHM/AST. For example in SusEx, whenever he casts his triple hit raid AOE, deploying Adloquium/Excogitation beforehand to soak and heal the first two hits, while using Emergency Tactics and Succor for the last hit will bring SCH to where WHM is with Cure III.

I don't think this is at all overpowered due to the long cooldown of Deployment Tactics (120s). Even if you manage to get a crazy powerful shield with a crit Galvanization from Adloquium to spread--that's a cool story bro--but adding the Galv and the Excog together defeat each other's purpose: one allows you not to take damage, the other heals you. Since they're both 30s in duration, a strong shield will likely just nullify the need for Excog on any player who isn't the main tank anyway.

(I also agree Excogitation should heal at the end of its duration regardless--a healer should not be wasting a heal especially when that heal has a special non-MP cost.)

[Maku]

I always just used Succor + Emergency Tactics + Succor to fully heal my parties. This was you get the shields to try and help the party out some while you get off your second larger burst heal. It is a fast enough CD that you can do it pretty much every time you need to. I have no played SCH since SB release though.

[Pentt]

I'd rather you be able to use Deployment offensively to spread Chain Stratagem, because it just feels awful to use outside of bosses.

I feel like including Excog into it would be overkill, imagine if you Critlo before spreading. A 15k something shield with a 650 potency heal bomb.

[inhaledcorn]

I'd rather you be able to use Deployment offensively to spread Chain Stratagem, because it just feels awful to use outside of bosses.

I feel like including Excog into it would be overkill, imagine if you Critlo before spreading. A 15k something shield with a 650 potency heal bomb.

Someone suggested Chain Stratagem should be able to be Bane'd, and I gotta agree with that. Keeps Deployment with the healing and defense aspect, while Bane keeps the offensive potential.