PvP AFK

[Kae_Berry]

This is getting ridiculous. In Frontline, people are just putting their characters on auto follow so they move but they don't actually have to be there. Now that pvp actually gives more exp based on wins, it sucks that there is nothing to combat this and we just end up losing because half the people are afk. We only get one boot per four hours, so we don't have enough to get rid of people doing this, and people can't vote to kick when half the people are not even there.

[AlphaFox]

Remove EXP all together from PvP and watch em drop out or lower the EXP so much that it is no longer worth using as a leveling method.

[Yeol]

Just mark the AFK/Botting players and report them to GM.

[Nixxe]

Remove EXP all together from PvP and watch em drop out or lower the EXP so much that it is no longer worth using as a leveling method.

Crazy idea: Actually punish people who don't participate instead of people who do. We all knew changing the XP based on win or loss wasn't going to fix this, well apparently all of us except SE and a handful of really loud complainers on the forums. Stripping rewards out of PVP rather than dealing with the actual problem just creates a lot of collateral damage while barely being noticed by the people who are actually the problem. Currently PVP is the only reasonable way to level DPS alts, other than (to my everlasting horror) Palace of the Dead, despite the fact that it stopped scaling at 59. Until SE releases a new deep dungeon, they shouldn't even think of touching the XP PVP gives.

[Sylvina]

Remove EXP all together from PvP and watch em drop out or lower the EXP so much that it is no longer worth using as a leveling method.

So.... Kill the pvp queues? way to go.

[AlphaFox]

So.... Kill the pvp queues? way to go.

Or we can keep the EXP till everyone who has leveled is done and kill the pvp queues after they reap the rewards, way to go.

[YitharV2]

Or we can keep the EXP till everyone who has leveled is done and kill the pvp queues after they reap the rewards, way to go.

That sounds like a plan

[-BlueGreen-]

It's probably too late to remove exp completely from PvP, although it would bring the benefit of more people more willing to switch classes to balance teams in frontlines or 8v8 feast. What would keep people playing PvP then? Fixing wolf marks. They're pretty much useless if you have all the Garo/glamour gear you want from them. Being able to buy consumable things that have a constant demand would be nice such as aetheryte tickets, materia (not PvP specific materia like before, but the stuff we use in PvE), ventures, and such. Heck, maybe go out on a real limb and put stuff like the rare dyes and even fantasia as things you can buy with wolf marks (such items would give wolf marks some real unique value).

There might be some risk that such items might attract more afk/botting, but maybe the solution to that would be to make sure all such items are untradeable versions.

[Alberel]

Remove EXP all together from PvP and watch em drop out or lower the EXP so much that it is no longer worth using as a leveling method.

That would just kill PvP entirely again. Once the Garo event is over that exp will be the only incentive for most people to even bother. I'd rather have a few frustrating matches full of bots and AFKs than no matches at all.

[Ayerinn]

That would just kill PvP entirely again. Once the Garo event is over that exp will be the only incentive for most people to even bother. I'd rather have a few frustrating matches full of bots and AFKs than no matches at all.

not completely...PoTD didn't exist at this point in HW but my GF and I got 90% of our timegated tomes (for SB, Tomes of Creation coming on Tuesday with Savage Omega) through Frontlines spam