PvP AFK

[Shut]

That would just kill PvP entirely again. Once the Garo event is over that exp will be the only incentive for most people to even bother. I'd rather have a few frustrating matches full of bots and AFKs than no matches at all.

I'd rather have less matches with less bots and afkers than this. There are people that actually like pvp and that don't like seeing other just leeching for exp by botting because "lol pvp" you know?

Its funny how this became a huge problem when the XP was changed so that you need to win to get 100% of the xp and everyone else gets only 70% (which is equal to a win 3 levels ago). Before the change there would be the occasional afk or bot. Moment the xp gets nerfed? Suddenly scores of bots/afks infesting entire teams.

It was going to happen sooner or later the moment we had a broken rewarding system, that what happened with feast ranked when people just came in to farm tome and wolf marks. Cheaters also came for ranked rewards because they knew they could exploit the system without going to be punished.

When people started to ask for actions to be taken, lots actually changed their mine from a xp removal to something based on actual participation, SE should have consider this option first before doing their nerf.

[Beckett]

I haven't played Frontlines in a couple of days. Is this a brand new thing that more people are AFK than playing? Because I'm also on Aether, and a few days ago we were getting maybe 1 out of 24 players per match that were AFK.

[Kae_Berry]

It just got really bad. I was in one as freelance and there were 16 people afk. We literally couldn't kick them because we couldn't get the votes since they were afk

[JunseiKei]

I haven't played Frontlines in a couple of days. Is this a brand new thing that more people are AFK than playing? Because I'm also on Aether, and a few days ago we were getting maybe 1 out of 24 players per match that were AFK.

I'm also not seeing the "huge amount of AFK/bot in PvP" that are being claimed. I'm also on Aether. Is this mostly happening during certain times, like peak?

I play mostly off-times, where Adder and more-than-likely, Flames roflstomp Maelstrom. It wouldn't surprise me if peak times held a majority of lazy EXP grinders.

[Shut]

I'm also not seeing the "huge amount of AFK/bot in PvP" that are being claimed. I'm also on Aether. Is this mostly happening during certain times, like peak?

I play mostly off-times, where Adder and more-than-likely, Flames roflstomp Maelstrom. It wouldn't surprise me if peak times held a majority of lazy EXP grinders.

You can take a look at the score board at the end of the match, some numbers make clearly the difference between a bad player and an afker/botters. You can also watch them running mounted right into the enemy. That happen almost every match. Also, "base guarding" is a good excuse to slack.

It can be hard to tell which one is actually boting during peak hours, bot are programmed to follow your team's move and act "as if" they are playing. Out of peak hours, you can litterally see armies of bots past 3/4AM, that happened a lot to friends of mine, you also have video on youtube that can show you the actual state of botting in PvP. Rara Mira had one of his vid (it got removed, idk why, pehaps editing) when he queue'd with a friend for FL around 4 AM, they were the only 2 players in his team, adn you could actually see them following and attacking Ice/players at sight.

[ThanMazus]

I'm also not seeing the "huge amount of AFK/bot in PvP" that are being claimed. I'm also on Aether. Is this mostly happening during certain times, like peak?

I play mostly off-times, where Adder and more-than-likely, Flames roflstomp Maelstrom. It wouldn't surprise me if peak times held a majority of lazy EXP grinders.

This morning, an entire team of bots or low-effort players auto-running in a straight line until they're killed.

[sorawild34]

Since 4.0 came out, a vast amount of people have only been playing PvP for easy XP (Im one of them but I actually tried to win). While I agree this is a problem, removing XP gain would mean PvP would become a wasteland with very few players and once everyone eventually gets their glamours, it would be completely dead.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

removing XP gain would mean PvP would become a wasteland with very few players and once everyone eventually gets their glamours, it would be completely dead.

This is entirely untrue. There was already a dedicated playerbase for 3 years that played and enjoyed it. We may not have been large in number, but we played and enjoyed it despite no XP given, we played to win, and we quite enjoyed it.

As much as I liked the option of getting XP doing my favorite content, the playerbase - not the core PvPers, but the larger whole - have shown they have no regard or integrity for competition and just want free, easy XP. Get rid of it. Maybe then those who ACTUALLY enjoy PvP can do so again.

[TankHunter678]

As much as I liked the option of getting XP doing my favorite content, the playerbase - not the core PvPers, but the larger whole - have shown they have no regard or integrity for competition and just want free, easy XP. Get rid of it. Maybe then those who ACTUALLY enjoy PvP can do so again.

Or maybe they should just put a rated version in for hardcore pvp players. Leaving the unrated version for the not serious pvpers. Like how most games that focus on pvp do.

[YitharV2]

This is entirely untrue. There was already a dedicated playerbase for 3 years that played and enjoyed it. We may not have been large in number, but we played and enjoyed it despite no XP given, we played to win, and we quite enjoyed it.

As much as I liked the option of getting XP doing my favorite content, the playerbase - not the core PvPers, but the larger whole - have shown they have no regard or integrity for competition and just want free, easy XP. Get rid of it. Maybe then those who ACTUALLY enjoy PvP can do so again.

I did Anima grind for Frontlines. I will say it was fun and a nice change of pace from PvE. Although there is the disparity between melee and ranged in Frontlines.

Well, MMO players generally play for rewards. That's just how it is. If you want the majority doing something you have to reward them for it even if it's boring as crap (i.e. PoTD). I do understand your viewpoint, but man, Frontlines was really a nice change of pace.