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  1. #141
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    Don Sintruli
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    Clam down

    Anyone who goes in to the bcnm for feast of fools planning to wipe themselves at whatever point in the fight are doing just that, planning to wipe. Whether or not it is against ToS is for the people interpreting them to decide. Not us.

    I would not worry too much about this to be honest. When it comes down to it and there is real endgame content, not this filler that they are implementing to keep people interested. When there are open world HNMs, these groups that are "planning to wipe" are just going to be helping you out. They will "plan to wipe" and then hand you a half dead hnm.

    Just let them be and say "Thanks" later
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  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    edit: If this was a joke :P You got me.
    OH HO! A (tiny) TORCH FOR THIS ONE
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  3. #143
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    Eadieni Valefor
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    Yeah it's pretty bad. DoW on our server exploited the absolute hell out of it and I think its hilarious to see the leader claiming they should stop it now. If you watched his live feed thats how they won it the first time.

    What they need to do is, if the mobs de-agro 100%, reset the fight 100%. Despawn all the others and put it back to the gladiator and problem solved. That's what happens in most boss fights in most games.
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  4. #144
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    Neptune Deepsea
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agate View Post
    As you may or may not know, players have been utilizing a MALICIOUS exploit during the Good King Moggle Mog fight, that guarantees instantaneous win the moment you apply it. Instead of just accepting their first wipe, parties are RAISING EACH OTHER and resetting the battle, honey badgering the time limit, and proceeding to kill all teh Moogles. This is a horrendous offense against the rest of the players, because the mage weapons in particular are especially useful, and people shouldn't be able to get them so easily. So please like this post if you think SE should ban EVERYONE who has ever, once, lost aggro during the Moogle fight, because it will be easy to figure out which people did it and their LS, friends, and family should no longer have any credibility on this game. For real.

    Edit: It's depressing, but not surprising, that some of you could not glean the sarcasm from this post, but instead read it and excitedly agree 100%. Well, good luck trying to ban me. By the way, can I get a rep response in here, some of us just want to hear an official word on the matter and be done with it.
    They should ban anyone that's ever been raised during the fight as well.
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by TehDon View Post
    Clam Down
    Okay......
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  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Defmetal View Post
    Yeah it's pretty bad. DoW on our server exploited the absolute hell out of it and I think its hilarious to see the leader claiming they should stop it now. If you watched his live feed thats how they won it the first time.

    What they need to do is, if the mobs de-agro 100%, reset the fight 100%. Despawn all the others and put it back to the gladiator and problem solved. That's what happens in most boss fights in most games.
    For the record and let it be clear. Myself, Arania Kincross, Vasage Astrial, Sanctus Thefarter (Yes thats his name we dont judge), Cujis Blacksmith, Cookie Bandit, Buju Fya, and Kirana Fiore. Have deafeated good king moogle without using a exploit on sevral occasions. I smell someone who is upset that they cant beat him so they put the blame on others. Work on your own linkshell before you judge us. Thank you.

    The one and only Camisumy Sinclaire
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  7. #147
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    Ban everyone except OP!
    I'm sure he can fight moogle alone
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  8. #148
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    Hikai Tadacho
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
    You could fix it by having all the dead mobs reraise if they all lose claim. You could just end the instance if they reset back into place.. There's a lot of things that can be done. Anyways I agree. Ban the exploiters or at the very least strip them of their drops and achievements for the fight. We beat it legit and they should have to as well. Even if they don't fix this problem then when the next content comes out and doesn't have such an easy exploit their badness will shine bright when they can't beat the content and we stroll right on by them singing songs of how bad they truly are.
    People need to get over saying "we beat it legit" and thinking it makes them high and mighty. Seen as the the current game's hate/aggro/battle system is all working as intended, it is not an exploit. There are many other battles in plenty of MMO's were wiping and raising is a viable and helpful STRATEGY, not EXPLOIT. All the people complaining about it being "not legit" are just jealous they were beat to the win by a group that used this strategy first. If that first group didn't win, and instead it was Order of the Blue Gartr who ended up winning by discovering this method, their egos would never, ever allow them to go "oh we won, yeah, but we cheated." Nope, instead, this would become the de facto strategy. End of the day, a win is a win.
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadacho View Post
    People need to get over saying "we beat it legit" and thinking it makes them high and mighty. Seen as the the current game's hate/aggro/battle system is all working as intended, it is not an exploit. There are many other battles in plenty of MMO's were wiping and raising is a viable and helpful STRATEGY, not EXPLOIT. All the people complaining about it being "not legit" are just jealous they were beat to the win by a group that used this strategy first. If that first group didn't win, and instead it was Order of the Blue Garter who ended up winning by discovering this method, their egos would never, ever allow them to go "oh we won, yeah, but we cheated." Nope, instead, this would become the de facto strategy. End of the day, a win is a win.
    Actually, hours before the world first kill happened, people posted on our thread instructing us on the exploit strat, and we immediately rejected it. If you go back to the thread, it's on like, page 3 or something.

    As has been said so many many times before, I could care less that we weren't world first, grats to those guys. What I do care about is the wipe/raise exploit, and the blatant disregard for basic game mechanics/rules that the people using it exhibit :/
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat View Post
    Actually, hours before the world first kill happened, people posted on our thread instructing us on the exploit strat, and we immediately rejected it. If you go back to the thread, it's on like, page 3 or something.

    As has been said so many many times before, I could care less that we weren't world first, grats to those guys. What I do care about is the wipe/raise exploit, and the blatant disregard for basic game mechanics/rules that the people using it exhibit :/
    What she said ^

    We rejected that "strat" from the second we read it. As far as egos go I have yet to toot my own horn about this other than to label it as a "Legit kill". If you want me to come right out and say this then I will also add that I DO in fact think we are better than those people who have to use the death and re-raise trick. I think everyone who can beat it without doing that is in fact better than those who can't. If that makes me sound egotistical then so what? It's true fact. If it were an open world NM we'd claim it from you when you let it de-agro and murder it in front of your faces to show you don't need to pull shit like that to win a fight. Now man up and get better so you can do it the proper way. Case closed.
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