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  1. #41
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    Atoli's Avatar
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    I'm kind of amazed to the fact people took so long to notice this is possible..we've been using this..mechanic for months now, no need for a moogle fight to discover it

    I see no flaw with it though, if I get ressed in the middle of a group of angry skeletons but do neither move nor enter fighting mode, why would they even notice me?
    Something which does NOT notice me should not aggro either

    So calling it an exploit is a little bit over the top in my opinion
    Oh, and it does not mean instant win, OP.
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  2. #42
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    SE can not ban player because of their own fault to begin with, you cant blame player who take advantage of the mechanic flaw (flaw in here does not mean mechanic error, but it poitting toward the hole in the system player can use)
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  3. #43
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    Daddy Dufresh
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    I don't go into the fight planing on using the reset, sometimes it just happens and we get to continue. Also we still have yet to beat it but came super close tonight with only 2 moogles left. But as to call it an exploit is wrong because it does not make you win. SE knows there is a reset and have not said anything.
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  4. #44
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    The trouble being how can se tell if a group is exploiting vs playing legit in this case?

    If i read that wall of micro posts by yoshi correctly it seems they are working on the issue.
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  5. #45
    Player Shosasosa's Avatar
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    Shosa Sosa
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    wiping in XI and raising back up with re-raise was not an exploit, when your party wiped in a BC you had like 60 seconds to get back up before you were kicked out, so they designed the fights around knowing you might wipe and allowing you to recover. The game even told you how long you had to get up before you were kicked so its not like it was cheating.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agate View Post
    As you may or may not know, players have been utilizing a MALICIOUS exploit during the Good King Moggle Mog fight, that guarantees instantaneous win the moment you apply it. Instead of just accepting their first wipe, parties are RAISING EACH OTHER and resetting the battle, honey badgering the time limit, and proceeding to kill all teh Moogles. This is a horrendous offense against the rest of the players, because the mage weapons in particular are especially useful, and people shouldn't be able to get them so easily. So please like this post if you think SE should ban EVERYONE who has ever, once, lost aggro during the Moogle fight, because it will be easy to figure out which people did it and their LS, friends, and family should no longer have any credibility on this game. For real.

    Edited for the fans.
    Ok. My source says:


    Good King Moggle Mog
    Good King Mog
    Lord of all the land

    Good King Moggle Mog
    Good King Mog
    Rules with iron hand

    Good King Moggle Mog
    Good King Mog
    Leads them right and true

    Good King Moggle Mog
    Good King Mog
    Now come along and be a sassy Ku ~ ku po

    Kupta Kapa will clip your tuft
    Split your hairs and ruffle your fluff

    Kupti Koop will throw you for a loop
    He'll raise a wall of whiskers to find his troop

    Kupli Kipp is sly and sweet
    He'll tickle your nose then tickle your feet

    Jolly Kogi's eye will follow his clear
    He'll fire an arrow straight in your rear
    **All Moogles Laugh Ha ha ha ah ha**

    Pukla Puki plays with fire
    Bodies are burning on her pyre

    Puksi Piko likes it when he's big
    To sing a little song and dance a little jig

    Pukna Pako shivs and shanks
    She'll stick you in the gut and give you bellyaches

    And look behind you, standing tall
    Is the biggest moogle of them all

    Good King Moggle Mog
    Good King Mog
    Kind and noble lord (hear, hear!)

    Don't you know when you lower your guard
    We're gonna put you to the sword

    Good King Moggle Mog
    Good King Mog
    His judgment you will dread

    Good King Moggle Mog
    Good King Mog
    What do you decree?
    What do you decree?
    What do you decree?

    Off with their heads!
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  7. #47
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    didn't they ban players for using the healing method back in day? witch is funny cause the new pl system is even faster then that system with the exploit lol.
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  8. #48
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    Hoping they hotfix it so they aggro sound instead of sight.

    /crosses fingers.
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  9. #49
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    They need to hotfix the hotfix system so they can hotfix the banning system before they hotfix anything else.
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  10. #50
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    Signy Ragnarok
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    This is just stupid. Its not a exploit or a cheat. Is just how the game mechanics are. The same happens on ffxi, we use to have Reraise and all bcnm give us 3min before kicking us after a wipe, if someone have RR on he can just get up and raise someone else. Depending on the type of mob and how the party died some bcnm can be tried a few times before timer goes out. Of course the nm regen itself almost in 1min of de aggro soo is like a new bcnm but with less time.

    In the case of moggle fight is just the same, the moggles you kill pop out again after the song and have to kill all over again. The problem of this "exploit" is that you lost like 5-6 min of the fight just raising and resting. I don't see how can be unfair, neither an instant win. less time is alway less chance of wining and if you have troubles to ill the 7 moggles in the first 10 min you will be in the same condition on the last 15-14min left you have.
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    Last edited by Signy; 12-21-2011 at 12:15 AM.
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