the mp recovery from aetherflow isnt even enough for one adlo

[Elleia]

The issue is SCH never needed a Lucid Dream ability. Aetherflow was its MP regain ability. and it was perfect. Now, I recover MP that is tiny compared to the cost of my spells....I don't want to waste a spot in role actions for Lucid Dream when say I could have my old class action of Eye for an Eye.

I think that this is exactly what SE was going for, though. WHM and AST basically NEED to take Lucid Dreaming, else they need to rely solely on Thin Air/Assize and RNG ewer cards respectively. SE probably nerfed aetherflow MP gain so that SCH would need to take the skill as well, making it more "fair". I still think this is a skill that never should have been put into role skills and that SoS and LA should have remained as they were. That way, aetherflow could have remained unchanged too.

[Lildragora]

I think that this is exactly what SE was going for, though. WHM and AST basically NEED to take Lucid Dreaming, else they need to rely solely on Thin Air/Assize and RNG ewer cards respectively. SE probably nerfed aetherflow MP gain so that SCH would need to take the skill as well, making it more "fair". I still think this is a skill that never should have been put into role skills and that SoS and LA should have remained as they were. That way, aetherflow could have remained unchanged too.

or if anything they could have increased the refresh potency. Instead of generate a problem where there was none.

[Jijifli]

I think that this is exactly what SE was going for, though. WHM and AST basically NEED to take Lucid Dreaming, else they need to rely solely on Thin Air/Assize and RNG ewer cards respectively. SE probably nerfed aetherflow MP gain so that SCH would need to take the skill as well, making it more "fair". I still think this is a skill that never should have been put into role skills and that SoS and LA should have remained as they were. That way, aetherflow could have remained unchanged too.

I thought Square wanted Role actions to all be optional based on the fight you're doing.

So if Lucid Dreaming is a requirement to not starve in content period, then it failed.

[alimdia]

I thought Square wanted Role actions to all be optional based on the fight you're doing.

So if Lucid Dreaming is a requirement to not starve in content period, then it failed.

Healers got the short end of the stick with role actions, like half of them aren't really optional if you consider runs won't always go perfect.