the mp recovery from aetherflow isnt even enough for one adlo

[Jonnycbad]

I agree. My biggest issue with SCH right now is the lower/boring DPS. I know healing is their main function, but their DPS is what set them apart and now they don't really have that anymore.

Except, SCH still has the second best DPS after White Mage on single target. AST has better AoE but we have better ST. So for trials and raids where there's usually one boss to kill, SCHs damage is still pretty high.

[NinjaTaru72]

While I agree sch is still plenty viable,i can definitely feel the difference in mp.
Is it a pain in the butt? Sure. Can you still manage? Yeah. Just have to plan a but more.


That said, I wouldn't mind them putting sch at more of a mid point between what it was and what it is now.

[Ayer2015]

You shouldn't have MP issues... Learn to use Lucid Dreaming like every other caster.

[ErryK]

You shouldn't have MP issues... Learn to use Lucid Dreaming like every other caster.

You can actually SCH without Lucid Dreaming to be honest, but it takes a certain level of not-screwing-upness to be able to.

But trying to prove a point by being hyperbolic, using all three Aetherflow stacks on three Energy Drain beats the point of having Aetherflow stacks. And using Dissipation to get another three Energy Drain on top of that.... That's just bad.
Since Aetherflow stacks should be saved for emergency especially if it's on cooldown, not wasted on a back to back six Energy Drains.

Well, the issue for myself is I constantly see myself in situations where I have to use AF stacks on Energy Drain because it's come back off cooldown, so I don't understand how using AF stacks on Energy Drain warrants humiliation. And using Dissipation to get 3 AF stacks isn't exactly unheard of, but it is a last resort for me, I don't normally use it.

[silverlunarfox]

The issue is SCH never needed a Lucid Dream ability. Aetherflow was its MP regain ability. and it was perfect. Now, I recover MP that is tiny compared to the cost of my spells....I don't want to waste a spot in role actions for Lucid Dream when say I could have my old class action of Eye for an Eye. But that's the SCH I like. 2.0-3.0 SCH was a blast to play. To heal and dps. Now the fairy gets nerfed, AGAIN, aetherflow nerfed while still on an insane 60s cooldown with how little it regains, while yes Energy Drain is an option, it's not the solution. Nor is Lucid Dreaming. Tweaking costs to fit the nerf, if they want to keep it that way, is possible. Or for god's sake if you want to keep nerfing the fairy, bump the heal on our physick.....or give us a physick 2 for a bigger heal....Anything.....cuz now its really hard to heal tanks that avoid damage mitigation like the plague..... T.T

[Ayer2015]

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Lucid Dreaming is very much a solution. Refusing to accept it is the individuals' issue.

[Paladinleeds]

Lucid Dreaming is very much a solution. Refusing to accept it is the individuals' issue.

You know, tha's got me thinking. How would SCH's cope is Aetherflow was further nerfed to not give back ANY mana, and Energy Drain only gave back HP (not MP). Thus a SCH's ONLY means of mana regeneration would be Lucid Dreaming. Do you think they'd be willing to use LD then?

[NorthernLadMSP]

Lucid Dreaming is very much a solution. Refusing to accept it is the individuals' issue.

This. It's not going back to the way it used to be, so either adapt or get out.

[Aramina]

You know, tha's got me thinking. How would SCH's cope is Aetherflow was further nerfed to not give back ANY mana, and Energy Drain only gave back HP (not MP). Thus a SCH's ONLY means of mana regeneration would be Lucid Dreaming. Do you think they'd be willing to use LD then?

That's kinda how it is (for me) already. Aetherflow's mana return in itself is very minor so I am just treating it as a bonus, and rare are the occassions that I have spare stacks to use on ED. Using Lucid Dreaming as soon as none of it would go to waste, and then on cooldown (assuming it won't fail the prior test as well) is plenty.

[Lildragora]

Lucid Dreaming is very much a solution. Refusing to accept it is the individuals' issue.

A solution to a problem that didn't exist for the most part /clap

Seriously though, it is nice having the two forms, but it does make role action a little less exciting.