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    ErzaScarlet77's Avatar
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    Lili Reina
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    Faerie
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    Dragoon Lv 80

    the mp recovery from aetherflow isnt even enough for one adlo

    i know sch was kinda op in 3.0 but what the hell?
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    It's all over the healer forum right now. SCH was nerfed hard and while it's still viable you have MUCH less room for error than before and really can't main heal at all in eight man content without performing perfectly. Given the outrage I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the next classes buffed.
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    Freyt's Avatar
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    Rabbit Ackerman
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    Gilgamesh
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Aetherflow + Lucid Dreaming (you didn't have this before) + Energy Drain x3 + Dissipation -> Energy Drain x3, or instead of Energy Draining using those stacks for heals instead of using Adlo, using Rouse to give your MP a break.

    I'm not telling you not to complain, but I'm hoping that a few more people can actually see how much MP Scholars actually have.
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    Kabz Il
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    Spriggan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Scholars do have the worst MP management of the three right now, but it's not bad by any means. With access to Aetherflow + Lucid Dreaming, the only way to go OOM is if you're throwing out Resses left, right and center.

    Scholars do have other issues, but I really hope people stop complaining about MP because they're just plain bad at playing the job. The last thing we need is for good changes to be overlooked because so many people want extra mana to spam Adlo all day every day.
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    Luna Faye
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    i know sch was kinda op in 3.0 but what the hell?
    Not just in 3.x. I am glad to see it finally got hit with the nerf hammer, it was about time, now you gotta play like we did in 2.x and put some effort into that job while playing.
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    Kabz Il
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    Not just in 3.x. I am glad to see it finally got hit with the nerf hammer, it was about time, now you gotta play like we did in 2.x and put some effort into that job while playing.
    If you're saying the healer that had the highest skill ceiling by far didn't require any effort, you're just discrediting yourself and your knowledge of the healer role.
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    Littlegreen Namekian
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Idk what OP does with their MP, but I've been regularly doing Susano EX as SCH and even after death have zero issues getting my mp back. Popping either or both LD and Aetherflow I still have MP to throw out succor when I need to and swiftcast Selene, then either drain aetherflow on Energy Drain or wait out LD timer, popping Rouse to help main healer. By 15 sec I have half my mp again. MP is a non issue if you know how to play the job.

    What we need is an explosive heal similar to AST. Someone in a different thread brought up a change to Dissipation (which I don't think I've ever used except on accident) where as your fairy disappears it will throw out an AoE heal with an potency dependant on the fairy guage (on top of the 3 aetherflow gain). As it is now dissipation is just not encouraged with that guage there as it's emptied when the fairy disappears. A great emergency button and even more incentive to fill that guage instead of JUST for Fey Union (which I do love).
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    kattzkitti's Avatar
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    Mako Hext
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    post promoting energy drain
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    ZeratoTyrael's Avatar
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    Ryshad Aries
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
    If you're saying the healer that had the highest skill ceiling by far didn't require any effort, you're just discrediting yourself and your knowledge of the healer role.
    I was thinking the same thing. SCH was by no means "faceroll"... if that's what was being implied by "put some effort into that job while playing". It wasn't just DoT, DoT, DoT, spam Ruin/Broil, Fairy heals everyone to full. What made a good SCH has always been shielding at the correct times, knowing how to use your cooldowns effectively, micromanaging the fairy it's position, and cooldowns, all while keeping up with your dps rotation. Facerolling dungeons is completely different from running somewhat challenging content (EX Primals/Savage Raids). I've been a SCH main at different times during 2.0 and 3.0, I can tell you that any SCH worth their salt was putting in just as much work, if not more, than anyone else in the group.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    Aetherflow + Lucid Dreaming (you didn't have this before) + Energy Drain x3 + Dissipation -> Energy Drain x3, or instead of Energy Draining using those stacks for heals instead of using Adlo, using Rouse to give your MP a break.

    I'm not telling you not to complain, but I'm hoping that a few more people can actually see how much MP Scholars actually have.
    So wait.

    You want me to Energy drain 3 times to make up for the Aetherflow gut?

    Also, you want me to dissipation? And then use Energy drain 3 times? So I can waste the extra mana and a swiftcast to get the nerf'd fairy back?
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