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  1. #1
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    Aramina's Avatar
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    Ahnohla Mujuuk
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    Sargatanas
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post

    Also, I'm curious as to which MMOs have nailed this? Besides WoW, of course, which I've already detailed on how what it does is different than level sync and why using it as a direct comparison is a mistake.
    I wouldn't even say WoW nailed it. Anyone who thinks someone at level for Timewalking does the same damage/healing/etc as someone synced down from 110 is out of their damn mind.

    On topic: While on a selfish level it would be great to have all my skills, I don't want to do that at the expense of newer players getting to experience the dungeon (mostly) as intended. I have the option to either not queue for levelling roulette or leaving the dungeon if I get one that is too low level for my liking.
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    Last edited by Aramina; 07-10-2017 at 07:43 PM.

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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    Also, I'm curious as to which MMOs have nailed this? Besides WoW, of course, which I've already detailed on how what it does is different than level sync and why using it as a direct comparison is a mistake.
    Rift not only scales you down but also up in level for dungeons. GW2's scaling is pretty spot-on as well. WildStar's scaling isn't perfect (still a bit overpowered if you're level 50 queueing for random normals), but it works and they'll continue to tweak it.

    Honestly I just hate how boring rotations are at low levels in this game. There is absolutely zero fun in spamming 2-3 buttons in a dungeon you could complete half asleep. Maybe if the dungeons were more interesting, that would make up for it, but they're not...

    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    How is that healer supposed to be able to even come close to competing with me, unless they nerfed the other skills so hard they aren't worth using?
    Who cares about someone being able to "compete" with you? Baby Ifrit is only 4 players anyway.
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    Last edited by Naunet; 07-11-2017 at 01:04 AM.

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    I'm still pretty sure even if my damage was synced down to Sastasha level, Kaiten + Midare Setsugekka would horrify a poor newbie tank trying to hold hate.
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    I feel like a few concerns with level sync have been addressed by upgrading and downgrading abilities through Talents. Like the BLM Lightning spells, or the RDM Jolt spell. Yeah its still not as exciting and fun as using your full rotation and all your abilities, but still.
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    M'rin Vhani
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    Balmung
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    Rogue Lv 90
    I actually don't mind low level stuff. Its chill and I get some time to discuss important things with my FC or LS, like why Y'shtola is best girl and why people who have a different oppinion are plain wrong.
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I see no real point in doing this, and doubt they will. The point of auto-downgrading certain skills was to address bloat and skill bar management when doing old content. If anything I'd like them to tune level syncing so we are not so overpowered.

    Please make old content harder by syncing our ilv down further
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    Macleod's Avatar
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    A'sharr Tia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    SWTOR was able to implement level sync awhile back without stripping you of all your abilities when leveled down. I really wish they'd do the same here, it's so boring being leveled down and having no buttons to push.
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujin View Post
    I don't know about you guys but I'm always reluctant to help lowbies or even bother with leveling roulette sometimes because I'm not keen to spend 20 minutes in a dungeon spamming 2 abilities (hello Sastasha) It's BORING and almost puts me to sleep.
    Yes, it is VERY boring, but that is how the game is sometimes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujin View Post
    If you are a level 70 synced down to level 20, your abilities remain but they are statistically reduced to match level 20 damage/healing output. This means your rotations stay the same but your damage and healing is significantly reduced to match the dungeons content.
    They would also have to include a formula to reduce the benefits from your gear even further based on the underlined above. So your base stats when you get synched would be lower than a level 20 with level 20 gear to compensate, and make it matching.
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    This wouldn't work.

    Let's say I, the Lv60+ WHM gets put into Baby Ifrit. Compare that to a Lv20 WHM that also does the same Baby Ifrit...

    They have...

    Cure
    Medica

    I have....

    Cure
    Medica
    Cure 2
    Medica 2
    Assize
    Asylum
    Regen
    Tetragammaton
    Benediction (which doesn't scale!! It's always 100%!)
    Cure 3

    How is that healer supposed to be able to even come close to competing with me, unless they nerfed the other skills so hard they aren't worth using?
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    Last edited by Maeka; 07-11-2017 at 12:28 AM.

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    Rama Kagon
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    Phantom
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    Warrior Lv 84
    I wish they could indeed make us use all of our skills even while synched: sure it would need a lot of work on it but if big games like SWTOR (where synching up is a thing) and WoW (where time travel is a thing, but nothing else) can do it, I don't see why not.

    Although I wouldn't be surprised if it's the usual "strain on server" excuse we hear every time so, alongside many other minor excuses and comments so I doubt it will ever happen.

    Too bad, but not surprised at the very least.
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