Party Finder: MCH not allowed

[Greedalox]

of course you cant use mch, i have mch on 70 and i seriously recommend not to use it, it is a crippled job with joke dps

The only reason you can't use MCH in current content is if you're a bad MCH. Any semblance of competence will put your numbers so far above the green line of the enrage and most of the players in your PUG as well. No need to bring 4 Samurai if you're that scared of hitting enrage on Lakshmi lol.

[SlayerOmega]

I just did 3693 on V2 with my MCH last night. The job can clear fights no problem.

But that isnt to say that there's nothing to fix, or that it should be doing equal or less dps compared to BRD.

If you do less then 3k dps you just need to practice more.

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/9C2w3...Thbt/#fight=22

[Azerhan]

I'm just disgusted by what happened to the MCH...
It was my main in 3.XX, enough powerfull and enough usefull to be a very good job, and he had a good complexity. To get high dps, you needed to play very well with it.
Now it's much harder, and less powerfull, less usefull - almost useless so now.
We were not a lot to play it, and now, nobody will play it.

And no allowing MCH in PF... Remember the 3.00.
Cya in a year, when SE will make it overpowered o/

[Darian]

Hopefully they really look into giving MCH some kind of identity soon. Atm I'm not really sure why you would bring 1 for anything other then easy duty finder content and it clearly does not compete with bard at all for the usual raid slot. Idk.. just seems like it feels bad to play it atm.

[Wavaryen]

While MCH seems to need love, Am I the only one who thinks this is a community problem more than anything else?

Are you telling me that your group can't handle having a weaker class? Even if it takes a little bit longer to finish a boss? Are you really that much of a scum?

[Nezia]

>Fuck ups are expected to happen when you are playing with random people.
>The number of fuck ups a group can make and still get a kill is proportional to the group overall dps(kill the boss before enrage).
>People in PF don't know you, so they have no means of knowing if you are good or bad at the game, the only info they have about you is your job.
>Thus they will favor players who are "more likely" to do more damage, thus allowing more fuck ups from the group.

I've been on both sides of the spectrum, and I never got passionate when people would not accept me because of my class or my ilvl, I just try to be rational about it.

[Azerhan]

No problem to have a weaker job, but not if this job is harder to play and less useful than its equivalent

[Lastelli]

While MCH seems to need love, Am I the only one who thinks this is a community problem more than anything else?

Are you telling me that your group can't handle having a weaker class? Even if it takes a little bit longer to finish a boss? Are you really that much of a scum?

Yes, it's a community problem. A competent mch will probably outdps all of the terrible dps I met in "Susano/Lakshmi farm pt high dps please".

[s3ystic]

I have been playing MCH for a short time now, I recently unlocked Heavenward and thus the job. I’m too stubborn to use jump potions, and I love story-mode. That being said, I truly feel as if I found my main with it. My only high level experience with it is in PotD at the moment but I have been pulling some impressive numbers versus the legions of SAMs and RDMs in the dungeons at the moment. I will be playing it regardless if it gets buffed or not.


That being said, I leveled BRD previous to it (So all I would have to do is buy and raid for guns) and I have to say that I miss the few party buffs the BRD had. And while I can out damage my BRD in short bursts, my BRD does more damage the longer the fight goes on. I would like to see either a) the turrets to become a bigger role, or b) have some of our bigger moves feel big for all the heat + cool down + ammo management I have to do. Tactical drones that don’t do damage but boost party parameters would be a cool idea for a party buff (be it a shield or more damage or whatever.)

Regardless I love and will forever love MCH even if jerks are having a good time "being jerks" at my expense. I only bring these ideas up, less because of how I am treated, and more because I like the job and want to see it improve a bit more.

[Heimdalgc]

Are MCH being buffed?