Shower thought...There is no shortage of tanks.

[MirielleLavandre]

As a paladin tank main, I was just thinking, all through ARR, HW, and now SB, people have talked of the 'shortage' of tanks. The general census for the time I've been playing (since beta) have always shown about a 25%, 25%, 50% (tank/healer/dps) distribution. Even HW didn't change this much, as those that tank tend to keep tanking, while those that were dps but tried tanking often go back to dps. What I think the issue is, isn't a shortage of tanks, but a shortage of tanks willing to tank for DF parties.

I thought of this last night as friends asked me to do leveling and then 50/60 roulette. If they hadn't asked, and I hadn't had them there to accompany me, I never would've done the roulettes regardless of the rewards just b/c I hate dealing with the random nature of PUGs. Sure, some are good (most of them), and some are bad (a few), but the really bad ones tend to stick with people and make the whole experience just ick.

So, when people are talking about there being a shortage of tanks - look at your FC or LS, and you will probably see many with tanks leveled, but who never DF with them while being more than willing to run things with you. Not much for it, however, since no one can change the nature of DF unless everyone (tanks, healers, and dps) make an effort to understand each other and understand that regardless of role, everyone is a person who has different comfort zones and such, but is still a human behind the character you see on your screen ^^

[Riardon]

Get back in the shower and rethink it.
Tanks are fewer than demand. Most people choose to play as DPS in every MMORPG and this one has one of the healthiest Tank populations I've ever seen but still not enough to cover the demand.
DPS classes are more than Healers and DPS and this doesn't help it. You may found one tank to go through a roulette but that doesn't mean that Tanks are enough. They aren't. It was always like this and will stay like this forever.

[MirielleLavandre]

@Riardon ^^ I was writing that as the tank ^^ meaning I'd never think to tank DF groups if not with friends.

[Hazuki87]

Nope, just to many player playing Sam and RDM ...lol

[Blackheart]

@Riardon ^^ I was writing that as the tank ^^ meaning I'd never think to tank DF groups if not with friends.

probably the general mindset of most ppl that play a tank class tbh lol

[Aeeninwen_Taldel]

I'm a tank, and when queuing up for 8 - man parties, it takes forever for another tank. Sometimes even worse than waiting for two healers.
I think the last one I did took 20 minutes for someone. Which tends to be short for DPS, but that's pretty long for Tank/healer side of things. xP

[LaylaTsarra]

probably the general mindset of most ppl that play a tank class tbh lol

I don't like to df my tanks and I have them leveled on my main and on an alt. I run with FC and friends. It's just not worth the expectations of the DF community to be worth it for me.

[Dualgunner]

probably the general mindset of most ppl that play a tank class tbh lol

I know its mine lol

I have bad tanxiety

[DWolfwood]

The thing is, there's a bajillion DPS jobs, so to level them all, you need tanks to queue. I leveled all three tanks extremely fast and up until the cracked cluster reward, I had no reason to do leveling roulette. Everyone wants to level multiples of DPS jobs, and even if everyone leveled all jobs, there'd still be a shortage of tanks and even healers for DPS leveling.

[Blackheart]

I don't like to df my tanks and I have them leveled on my main and on an alt. I run with FC and friends. It's just not worth the expectations of the DF community to be worth it for me.

can't say i blame you, alot of conflict of play styles out there, one being the mass pull vs average pull debate or the more recent str vs vit acc tank.