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    Three Mage Gate ?

    So remebering gate requires certian type of classes to unlock special door like example

    3 mage gate http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Three_Mage_Gate

    This would make POTD more interesting and ofc raiding/dungeons as well
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    Why though? I played XI and the mage gate, or the weight gates in QC were NOT "Fun". If something isnt fun, why put it in the game. It adds pointless restrictions and pushes people into playing classes they dont actually want to play...

    Lets just stick with doors that just...open ok.
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    Yes for potd, it's boring, so everything to spice it up a bit is welcome. It would also fit the flair of the place.
    But no to putting that into dungeons or raids, it'd just be tedious having to go through this too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakeos View Post
    So remebering gate requires certian type of classes to unlock special door like example

    3 mage gate http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Three_Mage_Gate

    This would make POTD more interesting and ofc raiding/dungeons as well

    Dragoon: Hey, guys, a door with some weird circles. What's up with that?
    Astrologian: Forget it, we can't open it. You have to have a BLM, RDM, and WHM for it.
    Dragoon: Dude, that's lame. Sucks that you need certain classes to do content.
    Warrior: Somebody thought it'd be fun.
    Dragoon: Doesn't seem fun to me.
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    ...have you done T11?
    It actually has something similiar - namely: Glowing platforms that used to require 4 people to stand on them to unlock the next way. All fair game as long as you were split up (the content forced you into groups of 4 and 4) but as soon as you had all 8 people together and had to do the puzzle with two platforms in the same area... oh boy, I've seen groups "fail" at that...

    Not that this is a "bad idea" but I also dont consider it super intresting or anything like that... you cant bind it to jobs, in PotD you cant even bind it to roles, so it would become "Hey, everyone, stand in that spot for three seconds... okay, now we got MORE PotD to run, juhu!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by pikster View Post
    Why though? I played XI and the mage gate, or the weight gates in QC were NOT "Fun". If something isnt fun, why put it in the game. It adds pointless restrictions and pushes people into playing classes they dont actually want to play...

    Lets just stick with doors that just...open ok.
    I actually thought a lot of those were fun. simple things that made places a little more interesting.

    Most of them had alternatives anyway so you weren't really forced to play classes you didn't want to play..

    The 3 Mage gate for Example I remember having a "moon orb" or I think that's what it was called so I could open that gate myself. even as a ninja.

    The garleige citadel gate breaches where you needed 4 people to press the buttons. could also at one point also be done solo by going through the cavernous maw to the past.

    Eldieme necropolis as well where you had to juggle the switches to open and close paths.

    Quicksand caves weight gates. 1 big galka or 3 tiny tarutaru...

    loads of zones had those little puzzles in and it just made them a bit more fun and bit less bland. even castle o, SSG, temple of ugaleigh, pso xja, davoi!

    I'd like to see some of that in XIV, or just some indoorsy zones in general. even 1.0 had indoorsy zones like mun tuy cellers..

    It's a sorry state when these simple things are considered punishing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Dragoon: Hey, guys, a door with some weird circles. What's up with that?
    Astrologian: Forget it, we can't open it. You have to have a BLM, RDM, and WHM for it.
    Dragoon: Dude, that's lame. Sucks that you need certain classes to do content.
    Warrior: Somebody thought it'd be fun.
    Dragoon: Doesn't seem fun to me.
    Dragoon: Hey, guys, a door with some weird circles. What's up with that?
    Astrologian: Forget it, we can't open it. You have to have a BLM, RDM, and WHM for it.
    Dragoon: Dude, that's lame. Sucks that you need certain classes to do content.
    Ninja: You don't need those classes I can open that door for you I got the key.
    Dragoon: Cool!!! Cheers Mate!
    Warrior: Yeah there's a quest in windhusrt you can do if you want to get your own key.
    Dragoon: SWEEEEEET! i'll do that later
    Astrologian: Really? i'll go do that as well...


    XIV really needs some indoorsy type zones. why can't a miner actually go mining IN nanawa / copperbell mines for example?
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    Last edited by Dzian; 07-09-2017 at 08:29 PM.

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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    ...have you done T11?
    It actually has something similiar - namely: Glowing platforms that used to require 4 people to stand on them to unlock the next way. All fair game as long as you were split up (the content forced you into groups of 4 and 4) but as soon as you had all 8 people together and had to do the puzzle with two platforms in the same area... oh boy, I've seen groups "fail" at that...

    Not that this is a "bad idea" but I also dont consider it super intresting or anything like that... you cant bind it to jobs, in PotD you cant even bind it to roles, so it would become "Hey, everyone, stand in that spot for three seconds... okay, now we got MORE PotD to run, juhu!"
    But that is already in PotD

    Another idea to make Potd "fun" would be a mechanic from Cutter's Cry 1.0
    Someone step on a trap (still PotD mechanic) and the party get force teleported in 2 seperate rooms (here begin the CC mechanic), where they have to kill all enemies, but the last enemy in both rooms have to get killed at the same time to left the rooms, or the enemies spawn anew.
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    Last edited by Felis; 07-09-2017 at 08:01 PM.

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    Doesn't have to be restricted to certain classes, just make differently colored ones for certain number of people that have to stand on them. And don't place them next to each other, let us search for them.
    Again, I'd only like this as an addition to potd.
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    I thought the 3 mage gate was a neat thing to run into, even if you could eventually just circumvent the mechanic altogether with enough mission progress.

    Opening the door the "intended" way was one of my highlights of my early FFXI play (which, let's face it, is where most of the nostalgia comes from)
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    Yeah example for floor 100-200+ lol
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