WHUT?!weaponskill animations gone ? Another ARC pigeon hole content.

[Vorn]

Personally, I'm posative mrd stack is actually a better result for groups needing higher DPS, because if they get behind they could always AOE the crap outa stuff.

But seriously, mrd is superior to arc in every aspect aside from lazy combo and range (do I have to say mp? I mean feather foot alone cancels this issue)

If I main Mrd, I'd be gloating about it.

[KumaAkuma]

I'm Main Mrd and I'm not gloating at all. I don't understand why you keep bringing up Mrd aoe. Arc has basically the same aoe, Mrd would just die if you gathered moogles in that fight to aoe. You shouldn't even be bothering with aoe, because all the moogles except the one you're focusing on are healing up again anyway.

Yes Murugan you tried to prove me wrong with some aoe example and tell me I heard wrong. Well I played both Arc and Mrd myself and if you compare the two Arc >>>> by a long shot.

And why is featherfoot brought up as an arguement at all in this conversation. omfg.

[Thanos]

Well if you yourself want to go as a certain class that shouldnt be a problem. Your LS should accomadate to it (they did recruit you knowing that was your main)

Sure it may or may not take an extra 10mins. But that shouldnt matter at all. Its the players that pigeon hole these things cause they want to kill fast and efficient. But really the extra 5mins wont kill you.

I dont see this as a SE issue in terms of balancing. Like I said its the players that create this.

Like Vorn said. We are as balanced as ever and if you know what your class is capable of in the fight and know how to use it then by all means use your preferred class.

[PrettyPrincess]

Well if you yourself want to go as a certain class that shouldnt be a problem. Your LS should accomadate to it (they did recruit you knowing that was your main)

Sure it may or may not take an extra 10mins. But that shouldnt matter at all. Its the players that pigeon hole these things cause they want to kill fast and efficient. But really the extra 5mins wont kill you.

I dont see this as a SE issue in terms of balancing. Like I said its the players that create this.

Like Vorn said. We are as balanced as ever and if you know what your class is capable of in the fight and know how to use it then by all means use your preferred class.

mhmm pretty much this

[Corrderio]

Other than the OP's horrible grammar I feel like I'm on the same boat. I love my LNC but being forced to go ARC is pissing me the f*ck off.

[Anon]

Other than the OP's horrible grammar I feel like I'm on the same boat. I love my LNC but being forced to go ARC is pissing me the f*ck off.

I haven't played lancer after the patch but did they nerf the like 5 yalm melee range they had prior to 1.20?

[WiiSam]

Isn't that what's goin on now?

The dd classes are closer in damage then ever in this game.

Seems to me that the classes are based more on skill and knowing how to play then ever before. While having good gear helps, an efficient anything will always come out on top.

Also I'm like 99% sure there is an ls stacking mrds, they were fightning with some other ls in the "cheat" thread. So mrd vs arc isn't even an issue.

You're missing the point, again. Class stacking mrd is just as bad as class stacking arc. The most efficient way of a killing these bosses should NEVER be class stacking. That is the only point. That makes it unbalanced. They should put things in place to prevent any type of class stacking from being the best option. Class stacking should be the worst option where people try to do it because its HARDER and for FUN.

[Corrderio]

I haven't played lancer after the patch but did they nerf the like 5 yalm melee range they had prior to 1.20?

Nah. Just people going "OMFG ARC IS EZ MODE! LULZ"

[Hikozaemon]

Other than the OP's horrible grammar I feel like I'm on the same boat. I love my LNC but being forced to go ARC is pissing me the f*ck off.

I will have you know that my grammar is awesome in my own eyes. We are not in school here i could care less about being text book about everything.

Only a few people get what i was gettin at w/ my wall of text. I wasnt saying "X" class is useless in fight. I was stating how it strongly favors one over many because of certain aspects of the fight. Ie.. moving targets regardless if u got hate, positioning problems because of moving targets. Close range melee yet again having to deal w/ eating aoe attacks that another class can aviod entirely for the most part. Another hellfire mechanic.People going the easy way-out route again w/ arc. I was'nt even entirely bitching about the fight for my sake. The LinkShell i am in does'nt do things entirely by the book or the mold. We did Ifrit w/ MRDs PUGs even ARC dds i even did ARC a few times to see how it was and guess what it was'nt hard at all the only problem was ARCs dmg blew ass at the time and having to wait between actions for fear of eating eruptions etc was hindering the group so i did'nt ever think about ARC and Ifrit again after the secondtime.
And for those that think they truely do more dmg now your not clearly analyzing the entire picture we gain less TP per hit, we have longer cooldowns, we lost actions that gained us tp ie... 3 alone from MRD. We do less dmg overall; some abilities where strengthened and some where weakened alot. And yes some animations are missing and some that i thought where removed where just swapped w/ older/newer skills.

[Burn]

First its "Wait until the class changes come in 1.20, the game will clearly be balanced by then."
Second its "Well, jobs are coming in 1.21, things will surely be balanced by then."
Third it will be "Well, 2.0 is coming 9 months after 1.21, everythings gonna be balanced by then."

The truth is they haven't learned a damn thing from FFXI when it comes to "bring the player, not the class."
Every patch that features new content is going to have a flavor of the patch class, might as well just level all of them so you can ride the gravy train once SE decides the next 3-4 month trend.