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    Quote Originally Posted by SublimeIbanez View Post
    I thought at 12 (11.6 exact) mobs fire 2 actually starts out-pacing flare in overall damage.
    Oof. Let me math.

    Assumption: Consume all Umbral Hearts and still double Flare. Baseline Spell Speed. (Minimum GCD of 2.5) 12 targets. Will also not calculate T4 other than GCD time.
    This means

    B3 -> B4 -> T4 -> F3 -> F2 -> F2 -> Flare -> Flare (We will exclude Foul for now)
    Total time: 2.5 + 3.0 + 3.0 + 2.5 + 3.0 + 3.0 + 4.0 + 4.0 = 25.0 seconds
    Potency - Primary Target: 120 + 260 + 120 + 144 + 144 + 468 + 468 = 1724
    Potency - Second: 144 + 144 + 398 + 398 = 1084
    Potency - Third: 144 + 144 + 327 + 327 = 942
    Potency - Fourth: 144 + 144 + 257 + 257 = 802
    Potency - Fifth: 144 + 144 + 187 + 187 = 662
    Potency - Sixth+: (144 + 144 + 140 + 140) * 7 (6th target + 6 more) = 3976

    Potency / seconds = 9190 / 25 = 367.6 potency/second

    Ugh.

    Flare only: Using previous work we can simply this down to 19 seconds, minus 288 potency in every scenario to
    Potency / second = 5734 / 19 = 301.7 potency / second

    Which means Fire 2 breaks even at... *math math math*

    X / 25 = 301.7 = 7542 potency which is... approximately 1680 under the '12 target' scenario, meaning you need a pack of approximately 9 for Fire2 to be equal PPS, and everything else is gravy.

    For F2 only spam... you can likely do 5 F2's (would have to test to be certain) which puts you at...
    26 seconds with 9740 potency
    374 potency / second

    Again, this math doesn't account for T4 or Foul potency that would change the dynamics of it, because I'm lazy, and is strictly from a Fire / Flare standpoint.

    So in most 3-6 pack cases, I will say F2 is a waste. Based on this math I did that is highly subject to being wrong, I will say on the designated AOE packs that exceed 9, you can probably just F2 spam, but Flare would still be better included for dealing merssive damage to a big target in the group.
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    Last edited by Kabooa; 07-15-2017 at 02:47 PM.