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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Yeah. Okay. You tested clipping bio II at 10+ seconds? Math is simple. Also your post before said it was a dps gain without having to move.
    This would depend on how frequently you have to move as well since if you are expecting to move at least once more before Bio II would originally expire then a Ruin II would be better now as you would then clip the Bio II close to it's expiration when you have to move next.

    Actually, that something interesting to think about. For fights with a lot of movement would it be better to not necessarily recast Bio II immediately when it falls off, but instead continuing to Broil II until you have to move again which then you would recast Bio II? It should be possible to calculate based on the average time between needing to move to determine if this is worth it or not based on the extra GCD you would gain from Bio II vs the loss in DoT uptime
    Based on some quick calculations if you are moving (that is moving enough to need to use an instant cast) at least once every ~40 secs then it's better to use Bio II instead of Ruin II and rather let the DoT drop off for up to 9 or so seconds and continuing to Broil II until you need to move again and reapply it.

    (Specifically replacing a Ruin II with a Broil II is a 130 potency increase meaning that it's worth is so long as you don't lose more than 130 potency from Bio II at 35 potency a tick which means that losing up to 3 ticks of Bio II, or 9 seconds, is fine if you are replacing the GCD you would have spent casting Bio II with a Broil II and then replace the GCD you would have cast a Ruin II with Bio II)
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    Last edited by Supersun; 07-14-2017 at 07:29 AM.

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    Using Broil II and embrace macro doesn't effect your dps at all, since pet action doesn't share GCD with player. Here's a macro I'm using atm and feel free to test it:

    /ac Ruin
    /pac Embrace <tt>
    /micon Ruin

    Along with Rouse, healing isn't even needed in dungeons, even for lvl61+ ones if tank only pull 1 group. In case you are confused, Aetherpact is a player ability that make pet use Fey Union, so it can't be used during your GCD. While Embrace, Whispering Dawn, Fey Covenant, Fey Illumination are pet action so they can be used during your GCD. The down side for this macro is other pet actions especially Whispering Dawn can be tricky to land because you're constantly spamming broil II, to fix that you might need another Steady/Guard macro for them.
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    Last edited by Guulu; 07-15-2017 at 12:25 AM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guulu View Post
    Using Broil II and embrace macro doesn't effect you dps at all, since pet action doesn't share GCD with player. Here's a macro I'm using atm and feel free to test it:
    It's not a matter of whether it shares a GCD or not. It's a matter that NO (in-game) macro can be put on the GCD que.

    Even if you make a macro that is just /ac "Broil II" and nothing else, you cannot que that macro on the GCD que.

    If you want to test it make a Macro for Embrace and then put Embrace on your hotbar normally. You'll be spamming the normal Embrace a lot faster since no time will be wasted between your casts because your next Embrace is qued before your current one is finished while with a macro there will inevitably be a small delay between your casts as you can't que the macro and can only activate it as soon as the previous embrace is completely finished casting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
    It's not a matter of whether it shares a GCD or not. It's a matter that NO (in-game) macro can be put on the GCD que.

    Even if you make a macro that is just /ac "Broil II" and nothing else, you cannot que that macro on the GCD que.

    If you want to test it make a Macro for Embrace and then put Embrace on your hotbar normally. You'll be spamming the normal Embrace a lot faster.
    Pet action doesn't queue at all. That's why Steady/Guard macro exist, making it a lot easier to control your pet. Yes macro doesn't queue, but you are literally spamming the key so I doubt there's actually DPS different. Even if there is, it is negligible since you won't get 1 extra broil for that in either pulls or boss fight at dungeons.

    For Raid however, you might get 1 extra broill from like 200 broil you spammed. But keep in mind that you or your co-healer will be healing tank more since you are not using your embrace to full potential, which is likely to cause your DPS lost. You are welcome to spam broil and embrace at once for the entire fight, in that case I am wrong with my statement "Using Broil II and embrace macro doesn't effect your dps at all".
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    Last edited by Guulu; 07-15-2017 at 12:28 AM. Reason: length

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    SE literally made this job feel clunky, why would you guys want to add macros on top of that? :'D
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    My point is why even lose GCD time though when since Fairy actions don't involve your GCD you can just set the fairy's embrace to it's own separate hotkey and just hit that every 1.5 secs between your GCD casts. It's basically being more inefficient because you only want to press 1 button every 2.5 secs instead of 2.
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