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    Posted in another thread. The change to dissipaton, creating a fairy swap that interacts with fey union, which has different effects with either fairy would enhance synergy extremely. Eos stays her powerful aoe support self and selene becomes more single target. Selene would not increase damage, because if she did, DPS would expect it over the tank at all times and Eos would never be used for fey union. Shortened list to what i feel would have the most impact.

    Dissipation: Orders your pet away while granting you a full Aetherflow stack.
    Also grants a buff that increases healing magic potency by 20%. Your next Summon or Summon II is instant cast. Buff ends after 30 seconds or when your next Summon or Summon II is cast. Aetherflow spent while in dissipation will fill fairy gauge at a rate of 20 instead of 10. Using aetherflow outside of a fairy summoned or dissipation will have no effect on the gage.

    Fey Union:

    When active with Eos All party members within 10 yalms receive 200 potency in healing every 3 seconds . A buff is placed on all members within range increasing spell based healing potency by 10%, which ends as fey union does. Fey union remains unaffected as an ability.

    While Selene is active 350 potency every 3 seconds to a single target within 15 yalms. A buff is placed on that party member reducing damage taken by 10%.

    Fairys:

    Eos:
    Fey illumination returned to 20%.

    Selene: Fey Charm-Silent Dusk no longer applies Silence, instead it places an 8 second magic vulnerability down on a single target and is called Fey Charm. Cool down of 90 seconds.
    Fey wind buffed to 5% speed increase.

    Bane: Also spreads Chain Strategum. 15% chance to reset its duration on the mobs hit.

    Role Skill Change:

    Break: cast time 2 seconds. Recast 2.5. MP cost equal to 1.33x Broil II. Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 65-80 to target and all nearby targets.
    Additional Effect: Heavy +20%
    Duration: 15s



    Imagine having Selene out, to increase dps of the raid. Large AoE is coming. Dissipation! Burn Aetherflow. Energy Drain. Energy Drain. Adlo spread. Sacred Soil. 60 gauge filled. Instant Summon Eos. Dissipation falls off. Massive AoE about to hit. Fey union Eos to make her a pulsing 200 potency heal, while increasing the healing potency of your coheal. You used multiple cool downs together to create a powerful effect.

    Does that not just scream tactician? Scholar?
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 07-09-2017 at 05:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Posted in another thread. The change to dissipaton, creating a fairy swap that interacts with fey union, which has different effects with either fairy would enhance synergy extremely. Eos stays her powerful aoe support self and selene becomes more single target. Shortened list to what i feel would have the most impact.

    Dissipation: Orders your pet away while granting you a full Aetherflow stack.
    Also grants a buff that increases healing magic potency by 20%. Your next Summon or Summon II is instant cast. Buff ends after 30 seconds or when your next Summon or Summon II is cast. Aetherflow spent while in dissipation will fill fairy gage at a rate of 20 instead of 10. Using aetherflow outside of a fairy summoned or dissipation will have no effect on the gage.

    Fey Union:

    When active with Eos All party members within 10 yalms receive 200 potency in healing every 3 seconds . A buff is placed on all members within range increasing spell based healing potency by 10%, which ends as fey union does. Fey union remains unaffected as an ability.

    While Selene is active 350 potency every 3 seconds to a single target within 15 yalms. A buff is placed on that party member reducing damage taken by 10%.
    Dissipation I don't know why people want the healing % to stay it is pointless...it only effects Physick, Adlo, and succor its the same reason why Largesse is just a MEH cooldown. Now if it effected Lustrate or indom that would be great, but that isn't going to happen.


    I would love for these changes to fey union but again they have made it clear they don't want the fairy healing as much as pre Stormblood, so no way this will happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Dissipation: Orders your pet away while granting you a full Aetherflow stack.
    Also grants a buff that increases healing magic potency by 20%. Your next Summon or Summon II is instant cast. Buff ends after 30 seconds or when your next Summon or Summon II is cast. Aetherflow spent while in dissipation will fill fairy gauge at a rate of 20 instead of 10. Using aetherflow outside of a fairy summoned or dissipation will have no effect on the gage.
    I really like this fix for dissipation, sadly, we'll never see any of this. I doubt we see any love for many, many patches. Probably best to just level up AST or WHM at this point. SCH is broken.
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    Oh okay, I misunderstood then my bad.
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    Nah it giving crit shields is meh, I like the concept of it converting shields to heals, making it a free crit but still has the same effect otherwise would be super strong and potent already. Makes it into a 900 potency heal and you can slap a lustrate over it for 1500 potency. That alone is an insane amount of single target healing for basically 1 gcd

    This would give us an even better 700 potency +regen aoe heal bomb than we have already as well
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    Last edited by Deox; 07-10-2017 at 07:24 AM.

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    You just made sch heal more then a whm and buffs stronger then a ast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simiii View Post
    You just made sch heal more then a whm and buffs stronger then a ast.
    People in general don't understand balance, they just want what they play to to be strong and awesome :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by simiii View Post
    You just made sch heal more then a whm and buffs stronger then a ast.
    Can you be more specific? none of the potency increase beat WHM heals values nor are we getting any more healing ability's, if your think having more lustrates is op then just look at cure 2 is there a limit how often you can cast it?

    As far as the changes to selene I can see some of your point, the recast on them can be high but to say it out buffs and astro...
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    Lustrate would be amazing emergency heal if we had a true Cure II, but we don't. We have what is basically 3 Cure IIs every minute, give or take Dissipation and Quickened Aetherflow procs. And, this is assuming you don't need the Aetherflow for literally anything else. SCH has never been more Aetherflow hungry because our heals are weak and expensive and the fairy heals for even less than ever. SCH's can't as easily recover from a setback like WHM and AST can. WHM now has a ton of oGCD heals, and AST got a few extra in the expansion, one of which is from their card mechanic. SCH has to jump through a lot more hoops just to do what the other two can do easily, and there's not that much payoff for doing so.
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    When you say whm has more ogcd are you counting the fact you can use 9 atherflow stacks at start of a fight?
    All 3 of your fairy skills AND your skills?cuz to me seems like sch has more ogcd and if you want to be really technical embrace is a ogcd......
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