Traditional Tank

[Gravton]

What I hope to gain is understanding since most people are saying tanks are complaining about "muh deeps". That's not the case. Maybe your ok with S/E holding your hand in terms of enimity, but most of us are not. Stop worrying and just go with the flow is your suggestion, despite s/e asking for feedback? Did you think the forums were to just sing their praises? Also, I remember in 2.x where dps did have stack vit to clear mechanics.

[Shurrikhan]

Can you tell where to find this quest?

Originally from the Royal Promenade or w/e on the 2nd floor. From Jenneys, I believe.

[Bravely_Default]

just wanted to point out that flash does scale with attack power which is tied to strength. flash is basically a high damage less potency attack. (it was base 600 potency prior to the recent patch, no idea what it is now) with full strength right side accessories you can literally hold aggro on trash mobs in sword oath. the only thing that doesn't change flash is damage % modifiers

[Gravton]

just wanted to point out that flash does scale with attack power which is tied to strength. flash is basically a high damage less potency attack. (it was base 600 potency prior to the recent patch, no idea what it is now) with full strength right side accessories you can literally hold aggro on trash mobs in sword oath. the only thing that doesn't change flash is damage % modifiers

Oh I didn't know that. That's good to know. Lol at least it was good to know =/ rip str.

[Inuakurei]

I don't directly hate the idea of tanks using str. What I do hate though is that str tanks have become a crutch for our entire role in general so that instead of asking SE to give our role more definition and make tanking more fun, we instead yell about our dps being cut when "dps tank" was a symptom of the problem to begin with. And the problem being that FFXIV is not designed well for tanks.

Its a problem when the tank role's main concern is dps. Currently we are just a tankier dps class, but it shouldn't be that way. Its a result of lazy design regarding tank gameplay from 3.x and we deserve better.

[Galgarion]

I don't even find tanks strictly required in most of the content in this game. I've done plenty of dungeons with 3 dps and 1 healer and it was just as fast. Most of the content just isn't hard enough to need an HP sponge.

The only legitimate role of tanks right now in 90% of the content in this game is to allow Duty Finder queues to pop, because SE proclaimed that every party must contain at least 1 tank.

They really need to make vit do more than just give HP, maybe have it increase hp restored or defense for tanks only. But then they'd need to increase enemy damage to compensate, making tanks more necessary than it is right now...maybe that's a good thing.

The job atm is boring, with very little interaction. Is it any wonder that tanks just go for full damage and play like DPS? I should not be able to tank while eating a sandwich and watching TV.

You mean you put together groups from your friend list, and everyone can presumably tie their own shoes and scratch their heads while rubbing their stomaches. In other words, not your typical DF group, heh.

[Janhyua]

As of right now I see vit has no use what so ever because as of right now everything can be mitigated on str accessory the extra hp is useless only good for lazy healers

[Dizzy_Derp]

there are tons of players out there giving str tanks a bad name. They see good tanks using them and just ewio it. Problem is at that hp lvl any mistake is deadly. Your riding a fine line and your mitigation has to be on point to survive. The majority hopping the bandwagon do not have the skill required for that hp threshold so people end up looking down on it when they keep seeing dumb tanks die. Which sucks.

[Janhyua]

chopped

I like it that's how tank should be played all skill Base and high reward if you make a mistake you die for you mistake I was force to make the quick decision when I am on str accessory it help me improve better and faster making every cd counts it's so fun and reward regardless but then again there are tank out there with str accessory and think he totally invisible but not for me when I wear str accessory I think of myself as a tank with a sharp blade in hand wearing leather armor sheltron a perfect timed swipe on susano 1st phase is the best reward by itself because it's all skill

[Dizzy_Derp]

I like it that's how tank should be played all skill Base and high reward if you make a mistake you die for you mistake I was force to make the quick decision when I am on str accessory it help me improve better and faster making every cd counts it's so fun and reward regardless but then again there are tank out there with str accessory and think he totally invisible but not for me when I wear str accessory I think of myself as a tank with a sharp blade in hand wearing leather armor sheltron a perfect timed swipe on susano 1st phase is the best reward by itself because it's all skill

Well yeah I like it too but the majority of players suck shit at this game and the more bads running around in full str the more the community us going to see it as a problem which like I said sucks.