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  1. #11
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    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
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    Rogue Lv 80
    A little fun detail about RDM is that it is surprisingly more lag-unfriendly than even NIN.

    RDM's dualcast is ultimately a buff that applies after your cast from an answer from the server. If your button press beats this answer you will start hardcasting your second spell instead of insta-shooting it.

    BLM on the other hand is much less affected by lag on its core gameplay. At most you'll be unable to slide-cast at the 80% cast bar completion.

    Ultimately its just a factor that matters only if you tend to be lagging.
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    Draxxion's Avatar
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    Draco'li Tayuun
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    A little fun detail about RDM is that it is surprisingly more lag-unfriendly than even NIN.

    RDM's dualcast is ultimately a buff that applies after your cast from an answer from the server. If your button press beats this answer you will start hardcasting your second spell instead of insta-shooting it.

    BLM on the other hand is much less affected by lag on its core gameplay. At most you'll be unable to slide-cast at the 80% cast bar completion.

    Ultimately its just a factor that matters only if you tend to be lagging.
    With some of the lag lately I have seen in some instances due to ddos attacks or other factors I can vouch for this. But, it has only happened to me personally by something effecting everyone else as well.
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    Gallus's Avatar
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    Crimson Bloodrose
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 100
    If you don't like RDM your other two choices are SMN and BLM. If you found BRD overwhelming you'll probably commite suicide with SMN, so your only choice is BLM. Even though BLM isn't a lot of buttons, be warned it's very punishing for screwing up, and has very little mobility (but it's still a very good job if you can manage).
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    Furious Laughter
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    Ravana
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    A little fun detail about RDM is that it is surprisingly more lag-unfriendly than even NIN.

    RDM's dualcast is ultimately a buff that applies after your cast from an answer from the server. If your button press beats this answer you will start hardcasting your second spell instead of insta-shooting it.

    BLM on the other hand is much less affected by lag on its core gameplay. At most you'll be unable to slide-cast at the 80% cast bar completion.

    Ultimately its just a factor that matters only if you tend to be lagging.
    Ive never accidentally hard-casted a spell that should have been instant playing from Australia with a ping in the mid-100s (around 150-170). I haven't played rdm a lot but that's after probably 40-50 minutes on a dummy.

    I'm not sure what sort of ping you'd need for that to become a problem; I'm sure it happens, but if it does it's not a ping I'd enjoy playing FFXIV at.
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  5. #15
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    Kulthoen Akkiran
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    I don't think there's a real easy ranged class at the moment. Each has challenges unique to its setup that make things difficult. Perhaps it may boil down to you trying them all out, and seeing which "challenge" suits you best?

    Example: I've tried all of them personally, and so far I enjoy the Bard the most with it's needs to keep an eye on procs and manage multiple oGCD's. I like BLM the least with it's need to manage casts with movement, SMN somewhere in the middle, and RDM is interesting but haven't gotten to it yet (I fall victim to the anti-uniformist bug as well).

    I suggest try them all, and see which one stands out the most for you. Even RDM...you may end up liking it more then you would think! or not...but again, I don't see the decision being one made with just other peoples opinions on what's "challenging" or not, because at the end of the day, vanilla, chocolate, strawberry and rocky road are all different flavors, but they are all still ice cream.
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  6. #16
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Draxxion View Post
    I can't vouch for BLM, but if you are looking for less button bloat and ease of rotation the RDM might be worth trying. Either job though I would either recommend PvP or PoTD for leveling. I leveled RDM from 50, level you start at, to 60 using PoTD. Queue times were quick.
    RDM actually has quite a hefty amount of rotational buttons (in single target), but it's not a complex job so you don't really think about it.

    Jolt/Veraero/Verthunder/Verstone/Verfire/Impact/Fleche/Contra Sixte/Riposte/Zwerchhau/Redoublement/Verflare/Verholy (technically Corps A Corps and Displacement).

    Compared to BLM which has (single target)

    Fire/Fire 3/Blizzard 3/Thunder 3/Fire 4/Blizzard 4/Foul/Scathe/Enochian/triplecast (Blizzard 1 if you screw up that bad)

    Only difference is while BLM has less, they're much more complex
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    Last edited by Averax; 07-09-2017 at 10:46 PM.

  7. #17
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    Drakeos Shadowbane
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Yeah i do like blm currently 32 and likin it
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    Rhia Nara
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    Cactuar
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Drakeos View Post
    Yeah i do like blm currently 32 and likin it
    Keep in mind the rotation changes quite a lot, first on 60 when you get Fire4 and again on 70 when you unlock Foul.
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