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    Ayis Luola
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    Question for you SAM

    Was running Omega V1 the other day and the fight was parsed. When my friend gave me the numbers I was shocked to find that, as a BRD, I had done double the DPS as one of SAM in the group. My question is, what would be your guess as to what that SAM was failing to do? Since every other thread here asks SE to nerf this class, what exactly can cause such a gap?

    I know you have Sen and the other resource but I have no clue as to what that 2nd resource is used for.
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Yeah, so?

    There are bad players in every job. No surprises there.

    Nothing to see here, folks.
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    Jace Ossura
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    The guy's just spamming Yukikaze is my guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    Yeah, so?

    There are bad players in every job. No surprises there.

    Nothing to see here, folks.
    yes, my question is what is making him bad? I don't know enough about SAM to understand and it might/might not be as obvious as the MNK that only stands at the rear of the boss.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Not using his oGCD's which consume Kenki, the 2nd resource, spamming only Kaiten Midare, or possibly refusing to use any Iaijutsu at all would be my guesses.

    Quote Originally Posted by MomoOG View Post
    Maybe he died during the fight?
    Or worse... a Femroe! Female Roegadyn are confirmed to be the worst samurai. /jk
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 07-08-2017 at 08:34 AM.

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    Luciana Wolf
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    Even if he wasn't doing ogcds he wouldn't be half the bards damage. I can do 2800 just cycling my combos on a dummy. No Iaijutsu, no ogcds.

    Simply put, he probably stopped pressing buttons.
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    Maybe he died during the fight?
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    Cierre Mhakaracca
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    He might have lost a lot of DPS through moving. Its one of the biggest melee traps: People play melee DPS and dont realize they do really low damage because they maximize their time moving around for mechanics, doing the fight "correctly", not understanding that running away from the bad stuff like a ranged DPS is not enough - you have to minimize the running time and distance, and move in a way that lets you do maximum DPS ASAP.
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    Ociela Koslun
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    Lazy defeats all OP. To get doubled by a BRD that about it. And youd have to cut out quite a bit of even the simple stuff. Not even getting into proper use of Hissatsus outside of Kaiten. I won't say I'm particularly good at SAM but I'm pretty confident I could match a BRDs DPS without any strain to my normal relaxed play, would probably still be above it as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade3173 View Post
    My question is, what would be your guess as to what that SAM was failing to do?
    His basic rotation. If he did nothing but build up his sens and blow them on Midare every time he got 3, he'd still manage average DPS
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