PvP botters are ruining PvP Frontline ...

[Hyrist]

With the evidence provided, I'm thinking this is less of a 'player bot' issue than it is an issue of RMT.

I've been tracking PvP Matches and I'm not seeing bots so much on Aether. I see a lot of people dcing or intentionally afking, but outright botting, no.

Seems more likely that the RMT players caught wind of PvP being an easy way to exp and are shoving their character-batches through PvP to level them.

It would at least explain the disparity of players experiences.

[Shut]

It's actually regular players that are botting. Most of vid/pic posted 1st show people with legit names, not auto generated/"face rolled on keyboard" names. 2nd, if they were RMT bots, you'd see lot of sprouts amongst them and that's rarely the case. Worst is you can even see mentor crown amongst them... 2 friends of mine were queueing 1 night and ended in a party full of bots. One of them made a vid (which has been removed, perhaps for editing because you could see bots name), and in this vid you could see 2 crowns amongst them.

So no, it's not RMT activity, it's just people exploiting the system and know that they won't get punished for that. Every time something can be exploited, you'll get more and more people that will exploit it.

[EDIT] Erratum: Sry, I misunderstood what you implied here, I thought you were talking about our usual "BLM/ARC" bots. yes indeed, there are good chances that this kind of behavior
his also supported by RMT scripters.

[EDIT 2] I found this thread on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...g_isnt_always/ abouth the situation on botting in the game.

[EDIT 3] Another reason why some people don't see bot. It's actually harder to spot them especially on 72 man. Some scripts are working better than other it seems. I just had a match with another WHM, at 1st I saw him performing actions, but after taking a look closely, all I could see was eratic moves, random use of skills, mount/dismount without any reasons, etc... That way it can be hard to spot some just because of all the actions happening around, It may have been easier for me as a healer cause I notice when my co healers are slacking.

[odeimouto]

Man, these people sure love PvP

[Mirch]

Man, these people sure love PvP

demn rofl those lots of matches

[Maxwell]

I think we hit a critical mass of issues in pvp that we may need to make some compromise. Given that:

1. FL is hair rippingly full of bots;
2. Pre mades are still a thing (workarounds);
3. Faction pop and win rate does not feel balanced at all;
4. Winners often determined by having healer count.

I would propose to simply distribute players randomly across factions regardless of party, faction or freelancer status for all 72man modes in order to:

• screw with bot groups;
• hopefully distribute some healers to everyone;
• hopefully balance win rates.

Not a perfect solution at all. I'll admit not liking my own proposal much either seeing the flaws in it, but i'm willing to compromise to fuck with bots.

[Mirch]

healer count, the thing is we can change job in duty, talking about frontlines (and also 8v8) it's really up to the player going as healer if he wants to or not

[DemonwrathDeathreign]

Would love to see some action agianst these people using third party program to bot for them in pvp ... sick and tired of grouping up with them and making us lose

The problem is botter queue shatter 24/7 and make us play shatter 24/7 and majority of losses are bots and new players, casuals not knowing to attack dumb ice or spread out like a street corner H03

[DemonwrathDeathreign]

I think we hit a critical mass of issues in pvp that we may need to make some compromise. Given that:

1. FL is hair rippingly full of bots;
2. Pre mades are still a thing (workarounds);
3. Faction pop and win rate does not feel balanced at all;
4. Winners often determined by having healer count.

I would propose to simply distribute players randomly across factions regardless of party, faction or freelancer status for all 72man modes in order to:

• screw with bot groups;
• hopefully distribute some healers to everyone;
• hopefully balance win rates.

Not a perfect solution at all. I'll admit not liking my own proposal much either seeing the flaws in it, but i'm willing to compromise to fuck with bots.

Queue as freelancer, people should queue secure and seal rock more too

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

If by faction you mean GC, the Frontline Freelancer system makes GCs entirely unimportant.

It's purely there to allow matches to happen even if there's 40 Maelstrom, 20 Flames, and 12 Adders queueing. Rather than having to sit and wait for 24 of each (like we used to) as long as 72 players (and if not 72, 24 at least) queue, you'll get a match.

[Maxwell]

I know what freelance is. That is completely beside the point i made. Im not talking about queue time.