Cure v. Cure 2

[xNewbx]

What's Cure I?

[Risvertasashi]

What's Cure I?

The first tier cure spell; a cheaper and more efficient alternative to Cure II, but with less raw potency per GCD. Also the first healing spell new Conjurers well acquire.

[MoroMurasaki]

Reading through these responses I feel like either the people responding haven't played 4.x WHM or at least haven't done it regularly. We are not in the mana desert of 3.x anymore, nor are we playing dungeons that we outlevel by 60+ ilvls.

Things hit harder, you can either spend an extra GCD casting cure 1 or use that for some damage, given that choice why would you ever pick no damage?

I am not advocating for blind runs of new content using Cure 2 (though this is largely what I did for everything past the first boss in Sirensong) but in content you know and especially with groups you know I feel like there is literally zero reason to not just stick to Cure 2.

Can it be overhealing? Yes, but we can afford that and if your tank is anywhere close to decent that overheal will not be ripping aggro even if it crits. If it does then twelve help him once you Aero3+Assize+PoM/ThinAir/Holy spam.

And in response to whoever said Holy shouldn't be spammed you should reevaluate the way you view the spell. It is huge AoE damage with the added bonus of a stun, not the other way around.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Hence using Holy+Assize gives you more bang than Holy spam, every time.

Or I mean....You know....You can use Assize+ Holy, and then move on to Holy spam like every competent WHM does.

[Victoria_Silverdawn]

Hahahaha... don't holy spam... we have been holy spamming since 2.0 (probably longer... only been playing since 2.0 beta)... it's a good aoe damage with a stun... its like telling a AST to not use gravity... or BLM to not Flare... they are our best aoe damage... it's just easier for us to spam now without running our MP dry....

And as far as cure I vs cure II... base it off the situation...
big pulls... probably will need cure II... or cure I with regens (depending if the tank is good and use cooldowns)
small pulls... cure I...

And with the increased Emnity... unless the tank isn't using its aoe aggro spam they shouldn't have any issue holding things... but there's always that special snowflake...

[KDSilver]

Guess that's a old habit from the old WHM so I still use Cure when I don't need big heal.
But it is true that now that mana isn't a problem anymore and CureII have 100% to proc lilies, it could be better to use it instead.

I never liked to use Cure II or Benefic II except if damages on the tanks are really heavy, probably because, when I began the game, I abused it so much and had no idea what was mp management that i must have been somehow traumatized xD

[OcieKo]

Guess that's a old habit from the old WHM so I still use Cure when I don't need big heal.
But it is true that now that mana isn't a problem anymore and CureII have 100% to proc lilies, it could be better to use it instead.

I never liked to use Cure II or Benefic II except if damages on the tanks are really heavy, probably because, when I began the game, I abused it so much and had no idea what was mp management that i must have been somehow traumatized xD

Understands. I pretty much only use Cure II and Benefic II when they proc or feces hit the fan.

[winsock]

The developers clearly designed the content to do single pulls, and as such single pulls should be spot-healable using just Cure 1/Benefic/Psysick. It's the fact that everyone wants to do as large pulls as possible why we're not getting a chance to optimize freecure proc's from Cure 1.

Expert can be done pretty easily with 1 tank + 3dps if the tank pulls 1 group at a time. In other words, there is no reason to take a healer if the tank is pulling that small.

I would argue that the only time the developers explicitly designed for single group pulls is when walls exist between groups.

While larger pulls may not be great for free cure, they are great for DPS cooldowns and mp/tp efficiency of AoE dmg.

[Feidam]

Expert can be done pretty easily with 1 tank + 3dps if the tank pulls 1 group at a time. In other words, there is no reason to take a healer if the tank is pulling that small.

I would argue that the only time the developers explicitly designed for single group pulls is when walls exist between groups.

While larger pulls may not be great for free cure, they are great for DPS cooldowns and mp/tp efficiency of AoE dmg.

Big pulls can be fun or a nightmare. Lately they seem to fall more under the Nightmare category. Too many tanks refuse to use cooldowns and want to stay in dps stance. Which just is not fun when I'm having to spam heal the crap out of their squishy butt praying the next heal goes off prior to a crit from the trash.

[Ayer2015]

With Cure 2 being a 100% lily proc, if I'm using a direct heal I use it, if I have 3 lilies already then I use cure 1.