Stop rewarding tanks/healers! We all put in the same effort.

[Elim]

I'm very drunk and this made me laugh very hard.

You wait outrageously long queue times because of the lack of tanks and healers. You want more of us to queue up so those times lower-- thus the rewards. If you reward only DPS your queues will only get longer. lmao

[Moonfish]

I hate this mindset. Tanks and Healers aren't working harder than a DPS player and I say that as a Healer main. Upholding Rotations during mechanic heavy fights and with positional trash is a hell of a lot more work than you think it is. Keeping Aero on a boss and dishing out the occasional heal every 20 seconds is nothing compared to that. All three roles require an immense amount of upkeep to be played well. The only difference is that there is WAY MORE DPS ROLES than tank and healers. That's the only reason why queues for them are long. Get off the god complex please.

Slow your roll there. My comment was in response to the suggestion that DPS get bonus experience for waiting longer in the queue.

[YitharV2]

-snip-

Shh, shh, we don't talk about that here. Don't you know, tanks are supposed to tank?

Seriously though, I agree that some people don't like the responsibility. I myself don't necessarily like it, but I still did it in other MMOs because of the level of engagement that a tank had, far far beyond the level of engagement a DPS had. I'd say playing Monk and Samurai is more engaging to me than playing Warrior or Paladin.

For Monk specifically, there are just so many things I need to optimize and pay attention to. I have 3 oGCDs that I should be using on cooldown. I also need to pay attention to chakras because of Deep Meditation. Positionals are like a fun puzzle, and they make a huge difference in DPS. I also need to upkeep Dragon Kick, Twin Snakes and Demolish.

Edit: TERA Tanking vs FFXIV Tanking.
This is what I'm talking about. That WAR spamming 1-2-3 aggro combo and popping a CD and running out of an AoE every now and then? I can watch Netflix while doing that. There is very little engagement in FFXIV tanking outside of optimizing your DPS.

[Averax]

You know, the more stuff that healers and tanks get, the more players will gravitate towards them to get that stuff, and the DPS queue times get lower as a result.

If there were no gratification for playing a tank/healer, you wouldn't see nearly as many, and all queues for DPS would be over 30 minutes.

The fact that the OP doesn't want to come back to read the replies just screams that they know that their logic is flawed, and they don't want to hear any counter arguments that would invalidate them.

[Mikhaill]

Ah, that was a good laugh....

Oh wait, you're being serious? Excuse me while I laugh harder.

[Arrius]

Edit: TERA Tanking vs FFXIV Tanking.
This is what I'm talking about. That WAR spamming 1-2-3 aggro combo and popping a CD and running out of an AoE every now and then? I can watch Netflix while doing that. There is very little engagement in FFXIV tanking outside of optimizing your DPS.

Apple and Oranges. Both have their own combat system and evolve around it. SE always has been for more easier paced combat which the majority can adapt to.
If you like TERA more (and their quirky '0.5 second reaction time to perform your iFrame or the mechanic will kill you' playstyle), then go over there and have your fun.

[Paladinleeds]

sigh am I really allowing myself to be taken in by this? Alright then...

Here's the thing, SE isn't specifically rewarding tanks and healers. They're rewarding people for playing the role where there is the greatest shortage of players. The community mindset of people in general (not specifically anyone), preferring to play a DPS such that there is way too many DPS in the queue compared to tanks/healers is the reason why they get rewarded. If the community shifted towards tanking and healing over DPS (which I don't know HOW they'd pull that off?). The community in general also has a mindset of blaming the tank/healer for anything going wrong, even if it was that particular DPS at fault. So it puts a lot of extra responsibility on tanks/healers because if anything is less than perfect, they'll get blamed. For example, DPS A stands in a one-hit kill mechanic (even through shields etc), "Healer where was my heals?" (yes, I've seen that happen before, when the healer could do nothing because it was an instant-kill mechanic, thus the DPS fault, but healer gets blamed anyway). This puts extra pressure on tanks/healers, thus shying people away from the role.

EDIT: And for the record, during HW launch there was a greater shortage of DPS compared to tanks/healers. So DPS got adventurer in need. So it can happen, though the stars do have to align for it.

[Sunako]

These are meant to incentivize those roles since queue times for DPS are abysmal at times. Granted, what they added isn't all that effective since tanks will just spam leveling for a couple times or queue with friends and stop once they're bored/have enough materia. A better alternative might be rewarding players for longer queue times. Scaling the EXP or tomestones at least makes the wait worthless. Tanks may complete three dungeons in the time it takes a DPS to queue into one, but if said DPS got extra EXP it would balance out more.

If sitting in que would make you rewarded I would only hope que would take long as possible since sitting in que and afk take zero effort.

[Core1019]

All joking aside, I would like to see unique mounts for each class instead of just for tanks. Especially since they're only for ex+ duties where there seems to be less of a deficit of them compared to dungeons etc.

[Arutan]

This is incentive to help alleviate the long DPS queues though?

*SE removes rewards for tanks and healers*

And no queue ever popped ever again. The end.

Honestly I see no difference between queue before and after cracked clusters.