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    Inosaska's Avatar
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    Lotharius Lionheart
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    I always wondered how people afford such expensive houses in this game. I myself have never owned that much money so I guess unless I'm crafting or finding really rare items my chances of owning a home is basically impossible because of the amount of money it costs.
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    Clover Blake
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    I own a single house in Balmung. I have, however, purchased three apartments for my alts because I noticed they hadn't filled, and SE said that they're supposed to easily add more if needed (not like I've seen them add more, but I believe there are still some apartments left in Balmung, or were the other day when I checked).
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    Last edited by Clover_Blake; 07-09-2017 at 05:04 PM.

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    Even if this is a small server with lots of housing open why do you need 28 houses? If many plots were still open then it would be alright if they said that they had like around four houses each thus 8 houses..still a lot but 28 is way too much..I do kinda wonder if they would be nice enough to give some plots away when the server gets more players?

    Its just like PVP players that are using their alts to get another limited mount..it takes it away from someone else and maybe there was someone that wanted a house in exact that place and cant have it. Also allowing this to happen on one server, allows this on other servers too..

    And then after all this they play the victim card...harassment is not right but if you do something like that you will have to deal with criticism..I really wish that this would be shown to the devs to show them, that yes sadly people like that are playing the game and that we need some kind of restrictions..
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Mari Sakamoto
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t....38-and-Beyond

    He stated this like... 3 years ago and yet nothing has been resolved about increasing servers for the housing.

    The development team has been making the most of limited server resources to develop a new system that will allow us to add as many new housing plots as possible, but as we need to perform extensive optimization and debugging operations, we will not be able to implement this until Patch 2.4.

    Some of you may be thinking it would have been better to simply wait until the release of Patch 2.4 instead of adding just a couple of housing wards, but please understand that we would like to do our utmost to ensure that new land is opened up as soon as possible, even if that means adding only a small number.

    In the future, we plan to be able to double the total land for all existing housing wards, including the two new wards, in Patch 2.4 with the system changes that we are currently working on.
    I am curious how he thought that double the total land was considered "subplot", but that didn't really resolve anything either.

    He needs to understand that the amount of people today is 5x the size of how many have played back then and needs at least 100-500 wards to even satisfy some people, or everyone.

    This would have been a lot easier if they were starting as Instance to begin with, yes?
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    Annah Gynnterais
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    28 homes on one account...they wonder why people are upset at them?

    lol

    This reminds me when Martha Stewart bought up every house in a neighborhood once.
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    Naesaki Ashwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annah View Post
    28 homes on one account...they wonder why people are upset at them?

    lol

    This reminds me when Martha Stewart bought up every house in a neighborhood once.


    I knew, one day! This gif would be useful.
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    Player Vhailor's Avatar
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    Deionarra Eidolon
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    In response to the OP, I don't own multiple houses. I think purchasing multiple plots is disrespectful, personally. Note that while I don't have access to a FC house, I don't begrudge people who have access to two (one a "public" FC house that they may or may not be the owner of record for, and one a personal house). Beyond that, though? Pure disrespect.

    A couple of other things.

    1.) One of the typical responses to the Mateus incident is that the plots lay vacant for ages, so why should people care? That's hogwash. SE didn't time their transfer windows for a quiet mid-expansion cycle; they timed it for an expansion launch. There were countless returning players, freshly interested in FFXIV, who were likely also freshly interested in housing. Now, they don't have options anymore, on Mateus at least. That's ridiculous. If it were six months into Stormblood, I think this line of defence would be valid, but given the timing of SE's incentives, it's not applicable.

    2.) The blame for all of this shouldn't fall on the players. Are they disrespecting others and being self-centered? Yeah, sure - but welcome to life. That's their right. They fully deserve criticism over it, but unlike real life, FFXIV is a completely manicured environment - and it is SE at fault here, as usual. They should have locked houses to one per account, possibly one per account per server - or better yet, not offered limited f*cking housing in the first godsdamned place. Every other MMO has managed it, why can't they? They also should never have disrupted the population levels of smaller servers like Mateus so quickly and thoughtlessly. Keep in mind here, SE had years to react to the overpopulation of servers like Balmung. Despite this, they couldn't even be bothered to lock those servers to transfers, or completely shut down character creation. They couldn't be bothered to upgrade their server hardware when moving data centres so that they could handle the larger worlds. Now, because of their delay in addressing overpopulation, and their sh*tty implementation of houses, we have this scenario. They caused it. They should fix it.
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    1.) One of the typical responses to the Mateus incident is that the plots lay vacant for ages, so why should people care? That's hogwash. SE didn't time their transfer windows for a quiet mid-expansion cycle; they timed it for an expansion launch. There were countless returning players, freshly interested in FFXIV, who were likely also freshly interested in housing. Now, they don't have options anymore, on Mateus at least. That's ridiculous. If it were six months into Stormblood, I think this line of defence would be valid, but given the timing of SE's incentives, it's not applicable.
    I don't support the idea of players owning an entire ward. But waiting for a free transfer does not excuse the people complaining from their own laziness or priorities, if you want a house and know plots are free on another server then move. Don't wait for a free transfer move then gripe cause plots are no longer open.
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 07-10-2017 at 06:34 AM.

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    Mari Sakamoto
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    ^This about 2nd statement.

    I hope people have been asking in the Live Letter thread for Saturday: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...g-Patch-4.0%29

    So that people can actually throw in many Housing related question and discussion in there, and devs/translators would be notified that people are seriously concerned about housing and be addressed this upcoming Saturday.
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    Malfoy Fleurentine
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    I think the worst part of that tumblr post, for me anyways, was the attitude with which those two approached the few neighbors they had - like any house not decorated by them and in their private theme was an eye-sore that they needed to grab and re-build so that everyone on their server could come in and take tours of the pretty ward... or some such. I just don't understand that mentality.

    Thing is, though, these players only got what they had access to. Even if they had to work around character-based restrictions to get all those houses, SE did supply them with the means to do that. And we all know that if there is a means to something, there are players who will pursue it regardless if you think it's right or wrong, or it's SE's original intent or not, doesn't matter. I'm just hoping that the publicity that article has given this entire situation will prompt change so that at least new players who are just becoming interested in housing can have an equal chance to the rest of us.

    It's always been my opinion that we should have a hard server/account-based limit on the number of houses that a player can have at once, and that fc's should be required to have at least three separate characters with membership and active subscription to the game at any given time in order to obtain and keep FC housing. I'm hoping we'll eventually have a limit of one fc and one personal house per account per server, but I'll admit that it would cause players who have a small handful of alts with a couple or so personal houses on one server and no intentions of hoarding anything to themselves to have to suffer the same consequences as the greedy, and that would be kind of unfair to those people. I certainly don't agree with the "we got to it first so we evidently worked much harder than you did and deserve everything more than you do" point of view - IMO that's nothing but an excuse.
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