How many people have multiple houses?

[Rymm]

Compensation in the form of give them the full cost of the house and plot back and save their furniture so that it can be reclaimed anytime within the next X amount of days or something. I mean that'd be fair wouldn't it?

Really, this is what needs to happen. Give people a large advance notice, like two or three months, to let whatever houses they don't want auto-demo. Then if the timer runs out and they aren't in compliance with the limit, just strip everything except for the first personal house and first FC house they bought. Send them back all their gil for plots/permits and give them a nice long timer on furniture storage so they can figure out what to do with it all. That's the only way I see it be fair for everyone.

[Dustytome]

I mean fair play to them, the plots had been empty for years

Those plots were added in June of 2016 and according to the post by the users that purchased them, they began their collection of houses in September. So about 3-ish months since ward 12 even existed they started in on buying up plots.

[TheFanciestBard]

Can't really deny or sugarcoat that those two players are ultimately rather selfish and entitled, the soapbox stance of theirs was really eye-rolling, I mean fair play to them, the plots had been empty for years but even so its still selfish in the grand scheme of things as really we all shouldn't really be owning so many homes but such is the current system, but at the same time SEs still at fault for allowing such an easily abused system in the first place. If they just admitted they screwed up when they made housing and and started plans to actually fix it, we wouldn't have any problems at all.

This attitude and mentality is exactly why these people got to buy an entire ward and you and everyone else like you did not. These people worked for around 150mil plus whatever they needed for their endgame. What is the problem, exactly? That the rich can buy nice things? Sure, I figure there is something a bit lopsided about those that can put in 30-40 more hours a week than others, but shouldn't they be rewarded for that? If you put in that time you would want to be rewarded too. Do you just want everyone to get a house with their account? Like, sure... They could do that, we could have a little instanced island with a medium that everyone can decorate across their account. Ah, but where would you get the furniture? Should we have just have vendors that sell every housing item for 1gil? Basically removes 80% of carpenter. This also raises the question of what incentives do you have to even play after that? Is a private instanced house even something people want? Isn't half the fun seeing your house among the others and knowing, "I did that" ?

People on the server clearly had no intention of buying the plots if they were available for literal months with no intervention. Like... It really is not that hard to make 5mil for a small. In fact, they were probably only 1-2 mil cause plot prices depreciate the longer they are open. To a limit, I'm sure, but idk what it is cause I'm from Balmung and plots don't last longer than 10 minutes. So that's further proof that the demand was not there... Until they weren't on the market anymore. Face it, people want what they can't have and it wouldn't surprise me if people only got upset cause they don't get to have 28 houses, rather than not having a house at all.

There is no system outside of instanced housing that solves the issue and frankly.. I don't want that, many others don't as well. Making housing cheaper just means there's MORE competition and thus fewer people getting houses. Making them more expensive means that only the rich get houses which further compounds the issues. More wards just opens up alts of rich people to get houses. They make gil as fair as everyone else, limiting the amount of houses per account means people are less incentivized to actually make money. If people aren't crafting, gathering, buying things, selling things, the economy stagnates. When that happens we'll be in a big problem as then new players will basically be unable to use the MB in any real capacity. Enjoy buying crafted gear for glamour? Better start getting mats and crafting it yourself since no one else is crafting stuff cause it's a pointless time sink!

So while you may claim it's selfish this is the result of capitalism. These two people clearly know how to make money and are very self sufficient so I would not be surprised if they are the sole reason the economy on Mateus starts churning. I've heard rumor Mateus is in a really bad place economically and it takes people like this to turn it around. The system as is is ultimately good for the game. Not for the random joe schmoe that wants a little house cause it looks nice, but there's a lot more at play than poor little Timmy that only plays 5 hours a week and just wants nothing more than a big 'ol passia house.

[tymora]

I support "1 house per server per account".
Just because you can do something doesn't mean it is right to do it.
While I applaud their effort to theme the entire ward, this is just not a behavior suited for online play in an MMO.

Bad SE oversight though. Such a glaring loophole should have been closed ages ago.
If SE decides to clamp down on such multiple ownership, which I think they should, I think the players should be compensated for their lost time as well. (Free subscription for a few months perhaps).

[missybee]

I thought it was really interesting that Kotaku decided to cover this story. It's a weird one for me because I really see where both sides are coming from.

As for the amount of houses I own - a private house and I guess partial ownership of a Free Company house?

My husband had owned one as well, so I technically had access to decorating three...but I get overwhelmed just decorating one.

[Final-Fantasy]

It may seem unfair, but when these two bought up the 28 plots, there was still other wards completely empty in Goblet, and many not taken in Mist and Lavender beds. To anyone complaining, you had the chance but didn't take it to its to late.
I had a few plots in ward 1 lavender beds on Mateus and I can tell you people didn't even have the Gil to buy the plot from the Placard, so don't be complaining about them having 28 plots, this is only an issue because people move like sheep, flooding a previously small and quiet community with idiots that demand instead of thinking for themselves. And yes, I know about other worlds and population/plot issues, but like the real world, its first in first served.

And one more thing, this is a game world, you can make huge amounts of Gil, it isn't hard if you just research and work towards a goal, not instant gratification. If I wanted a plot someone has, I would ask them if they would sell it and work towards obtaining it no matter the cost. This is why you have your own company for example, people don't even use their companies very well, empty gardens, no airship, no projects, just sit in the company and bitch about everything when you could all be making large amounts of Gil from the things you neglect to use.

The sad thing these days is nobody wants to earn anything. That's what these two did, they earned it, if only people could think for themselves.

What exactly constitutes an 'unusually high price' to the point it's not allowed and reportable? More than the cost of the plot itself? I'm not being cynical, I'm genuinely curious.

I believe the only reply given by Yoshi was making double or more the original plot cost, but this is flawed, because once someone sells a plot, then the next person pays say +1M for example, and then sells it later the next person pays +2M or more, it will just keep going up in price if each person wants a small profit.

But the thing is, if I wanted a plot you own, I'd pay whatever it takes to make you leave, even if I have to make you house glamours or airships, if I want it I'll try to obtain it and thus far its always worked. Don't forget I had to work for it, it wasn't instant gratification and like the challenge. Might seem harsh, but there is way to many self-entitled players here that think because you pay a subscription you automatically get to have everything handed to you on a plate...

[Alleo]

SE could have done a lot to stop something like this from happening but they did not, which is really sad.

I have no words for this two players that bought that many houses..its quite telling what sort of humans they are..

[Draxxion]

I have one house, but have considered an apartment either at my FC's house or Kugane. I don't understand having more then a single house other then to show how rich you are and to make more money selling the property eventually to someone else.

[Haprimac]

I have only one house, but I really wish I could share the house with my alts. And have more slots to share with friends. Have to keep rotating them. :S Have a friend who uses my house's stable for chocobo, another who likes to use training dummy and some who want to use my vendors/bells etc. or just come and say hi while I'm crafting.

[TaleraRistain]

Yes, I have more than one. I have my FC house and my personal house on my main. And I have a couple of tiny cottages for a couple of alts I play with my husband. We are roleplayers and they are their little hideaways. I had noticed the plots were idle for weeks each time and had the thought, hmmm, maybe I can buy that and share with this alt or that alt of hubby and decorate it like this to fit them. When I'm not playing those alts with hubby, I use the facilities for gardening or there is one where my friend is a tenant and he borrows the garden.

I read through the response from the two who own all of those on Mateus. The houses were there and available. They had the gil and the desire to do something with them, even if it was something that others don't value as much like decorate. If this had never become a server that many people moved over to, this never would have been an issue.